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Ballistic Banana

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14,704 posts

290 months

Friday 4th October 2002
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Right i have started building a new website as i think my last one was utter PANTS asit was my first attempt and used freeserve template.

I have only done a couple of pages so far,thats taken me ages and im still not 100% happy.

Any feedback would be appreciated.
Hope its ok to post this on here TED.
Off to get some links to PH now.

http://mysite.freeserve.com/BallisticBanana

TIA

BB

Bodo

12,485 posts

289 months

Friday 4th October 2002
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the images seem not to work

FourWheelDrift

91,825 posts

307 months

Friday 4th October 2002
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Firstly BB your pictures aren't appearing on the page, you need to change the image URL tag's currently you are linking them from your D:/ drive. You need to change this to the web address of where you have uploaded the image.

Me
www.Planet-TVR.co.uk

FourWheelDrift

91,825 posts

307 months

Friday 4th October 2002
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PS I'm always happy to help on these things just drop me an email.

Ballistic Banana

Original Poster:

14,704 posts

290 months

Friday 4th October 2002
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Cheers for the info will try and sort it out

One question though how can when i go to the site i can see them,is it because ther on my drive.
Plus i didnt think i had anything on my D drive.

BB

FourWheelDrift

91,825 posts

307 months

Friday 4th October 2002
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Cheers for the info will try and sort it out

One question though how can when i go to the site i can see them,is it because ther on my drive.
Plus i didnt think i had anything on my D drive.

BB





Yep, it's something we all forget to do because it looks right on our screens but as soon as someone else tries it...... anyway go to the site, right click on one of the images then choose properties you'll will see where it is trying to find them.

look forward to seeing the pics.

Nevin

2,999 posts

284 months

Friday 4th October 2002
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Make sure you spell things correctly as well, e.g. except should be accept

Ballistic Banana

Original Poster:

14,704 posts

290 months

Friday 4th October 2002
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Can anyone see anything now i can now but the picture properties are for the site so,prehaps i am a bit to b doing this now

BB

SGirl

7,922 posts

284 months

Friday 4th October 2002
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Sorry BB, I can't see the pix...

Hut49

3,544 posts

285 months

Friday 4th October 2002
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BB
'fraid there's still a bunch of little red crosses where there should be banana logos etc - nice link to the PH wesite - so at least Ted's happy!

Have you got your images hosted somewhere like imagestation.com or fotango.com? You need to find the url of the image on the site where it's hosted and put that in your website construct.

Hope you get it to work out - website building has got to be one of the most frustrating things known to man!

Hutch

edited to add that you previously got your banana logo image to show by using this string http://mysite.freeserve.com/BANANADOM/images/5-logo.gif?0.8178825314631263 so you need to put that url inside the quotes in the following

img src=" "
and put < and > around the whole thing

Got it? - Hope I'm helping not screwing it up even more!!!

>> Edited by Hut49 on Friday 4th October 23:03

>> Edited by Hut49 on Friday 4th October 23:05

Ballistic Banana

Original Poster:

14,704 posts

290 months

Friday 4th October 2002
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Cheers Hutch

No ive been uploading them In th espace i have on Freeserve to Build my site,but i reckon i'll chuck them in Fotango and host them from there.



BB

First and Last

57 posts

284 months

Friday 4th October 2002
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2 pages more than me Banana !

Keep at it - brave of you to do some of your learning in public - but there are lots of good guys in here who will help you.

The link to PH looks great though.

Have Fun

miniman

29,287 posts

285 months

Friday 4th October 2002
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BB - do you want a copy of Macromedia Dreamweaver Ultradev? I have a copy I have "finished using"...

It is regarded as one of the better web site building packages - and I built my site with it, see www.minispecial.com

Let me know if you want it and I will make an "emergency backup" of the CD...

miniman

29,287 posts

285 months

Friday 4th October 2002
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The problem you have with the images is this: your image tags are like this:

quote:

img src="file:///D:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Simon/My%20Documents/My%20Pictures/Website/HOME.gif" alt="home" width="91" height="21"


This makes the browser look to the D: drive for the images. Except, once you have uploaded the file to the server it is not D anymore, it is something like c:inetpubuserssimonsiteimghome.gif depending on the ISP etc.

You need to use "relative" file paths instead of "absolute" - absolute points to a specific drive, whereas relative uses the parent folder system (e.g. ..img would be a folder called img one folder above the current folder).

Bottom line is: if in the above example your file HOME.GIF is in the same folder as the HTML page that you are using it on, the HTML should read:

img src="home.gif" alt="home" width="91" height="21"

Send me any code you want me to look over!

Bodo

12,485 posts

289 months

Friday 4th October 2002
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Cheers Hutch

No ive been uploading them In th espace i have on Freeserve to Build my site,but i reckon i'll chuck them in Fotango and host them from there.



BB



Why not create your entire website in ONE 'root'-folder on your hard drive, and link the image's adresses relative?
You can upload the entire folder without caring for absolute addresses.

e.g.

Your absolute path on your computer is
file:///D:/Documents and Settings/Simon/My Documents/website/images/links.gif

BUT you're only giving the relative address (relative to the html-document's folder) to your html-editor:
../images/links.gif

whereas the html-document is ie.
file:///D:/Documents and Settings/Simon/My Documents/website/tvr/contents.htm

the path
*/website/
indicates your shortest homepage address.

I hope, I didn't confuse something here - anybody, please correct me, if I'm talking bx

Hut49

3,544 posts

285 months

Friday 4th October 2002
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Nice site Miniman - looks like Dreamweaver does what it says on the packet!

Hutch

Ballistic Banana

Original Poster:

14,704 posts

290 months

Friday 4th October 2002
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Cheers all,might take u up on that miniman,

Another question is though why do i need a host for my pictures surely if i upload them to my site i am hosting them,if not could i use my other site to host them for me.

http://mysite.freeserve.com/BANANADOM

Please dont laugh at this one, no go on i dont mind.

edited as forgot the:

I am using Netscape composer to do my pages then uploading them to freeserve webspace.

BB

BB

>> Edited by Ballistic Banana on Friday 4th October 23:31

miniman

29,287 posts

285 months

Friday 4th October 2002
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You don't need a host for your pics. You should get a certain amount of free web space with Freeserve - e.g. 20Mb? - within this you can store all the HTML pages, images etc.

By keeping all the images in the same folder structure as the HTML pages (as Bodo says) you make it much simpler to manage.

Of course, if you use Dreamweaver, it figures all that stuff out for you. I'll get that CD on the burner, shall I???

Bodo

12,485 posts

289 months

Friday 4th October 2002
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Cheers all,might take u up on that miniman,

Another question is though why do i need a host for my pictures surely if i upload them to my site i am hosting them,if not could i use my other site to host them for me.

http://mysite.freeserve.com/BANANADOM

Please dont laugh at this one, no go on i dont mind.

edited as forgot the:

I am using Netscape composer to do my pages then uploading them to freeserve webspace.

BB

BB

>> Edited by Ballistic Banana on Friday 4th October 23:31


sure! just copy the image's addresses from your existing site, and paste them into the Image Properties window. Do not choose URL is relative to page location then

miniman

29,287 posts

285 months

Friday 4th October 2002
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Nice site Miniman - looks like Dreamweaver does what it says on the packet!

Hutch



Cheers! I actually wrote a lot of the "clever stuff" (e.g. link tracking, My Mini, Learn the Hard Way etc) from scratch with Notepad. But Dreamweaver makes it a LOT easier to manage as it uses templates and if I want to add, for example, one link to the whole site I only have to do it once and all the pages are updated for me. Cool! Must remember to take the CD back to work...