Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse.....
Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse.....
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tvradict

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3,829 posts

297 months

Sunday 6th October 2002
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For those that have followed my 'Oh B*ll*ks' series of threads last night, you will know that so far my weekend has been pretty sh*t.

Well, it just got worse.

While changing my brake discs, the car decided it wasn't happy with one corner in the air so it rolled backwards off the damn jack, luckily, the old disc was still on the car, but unluckily, I can't fit any kind of jack under it to get it back up. (For those who are really curious, I had just taken the wheel off and was about to put an axel stand on that side when it went, it I hadn't shifted pronto, I would probably be missing my left arm below the elbow )

Anyway, has this ever happened to anyone before and how did you remedy it?

Cheers
a rather pissed of stuart.

Simonelite501

1,440 posts

291 months

Sunday 6th October 2002
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Hi Stuart, you can either get down to Halfords and buy one of those Air Jacks i.e a plastic pillow inflated by the exhaust (Expensive), or get a few mates around to lift the car enough to get a jack uner somewhere (Cheap apart from the beers). I'd give you a hand but its quite a long haul.

danny hoffman

1,617 posts

285 months

Sunday 6th October 2002
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Similar things have happened to me in the past, just take a deep breath, be grateful you aren't hurt and take a few moments for your head to clear and a solution will probably come.

Anyway - you could try a long plank and slide one end under the car (something substantial) and a jack under the other end.

It's a bit late now but I got in the habit of sliding the removed wheel under any car I jack up - just in case.

Danny

danny hoffman

1,617 posts

285 months

Sunday 6th October 2002
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Similar things have happened to me in the past, just take a deep breath, be grateful you aren't hurt and take a few moments for your head to clear and a solution will probably come.

Anyway - you could try a long plank and slide one end under the car (something substantial) and a jack under the other end.

It's a bit late now but I got in the habit of sliding the removed wheel under any car I jack up - just in case.

Danny

williamp

20,109 posts

296 months

Sunday 6th October 2002
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You will use an axel stand next time, won't you??

Anyway, have you another jack? If so, use another jack to jack up the car a bit, then use the second to jack the car up a bit more, then the first to jack the car up even more.

Once this is done USE AN AXEL STAND

MoJocvh

16,837 posts

285 months

Sunday 6th October 2002
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Saw a lad 13 days ago have almost the same thing happen to him in the car club.
He was trying on a set of alloys onto his car using two sissor jacks per side.
We walked in, looked at what he was doing (ie one side of car held up completly by sissor jacks)told him he was a stupid prick (really). He got himself out from underneath the rear arch to have a say and the back jack collapsed just as he opened his mouth

One Lucky Boy.

tvradict

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3,829 posts

297 months

Sunday 6th October 2002
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Cheers Danny, used a piece of 4x2 and the spare, spare on floor acting as bridge, wood under car, stand on wood, slide jack in. All done and dusted. New brakes on front end. WooHoo.

Can I just point out that the car collapsed whilst I was ADJUSTING THE AXEL STAND UNDER THE CAR. The car creaked and rolled slightly so I shifted my arse like a startled cat and just about got me, my arm, and the axel stans out from under it, my arm was on the door edge of the disc and would probably have been caught if I hand't moved! The reason the wheel was off was do I could get the stand in and adjusdt it properly!

The only thing I can't do with the car on axel stands is change the oil, and thats because the stand is in the way!

danny hoffman

1,617 posts

285 months

Sunday 6th October 2002
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I always use ramps unless I have to take the wheels off. They seem much safer to me.

Glad you got sorted

Danny

dennisthemenace

15,605 posts

291 months

Sunday 6th October 2002
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Stuart have you sorted the brakes now , any better ? buy a trolley jack for doing serious work on the car the jacks cars come with contain too much plastic in them to be safe now i found out when i got a flat in the astra changing the wheel on flat ground and the jack gave out

tvradict

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3,829 posts

297 months

Sunday 6th October 2002
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All Sorted now Den, not a problem. I sourced the problem I had yesterday, because I was sorting the pads in the dark on Friday night, I put the thin one in the wrong way wrond, ie Pad facing out the way. One ed disc and a nice shiny pad.

Cheers All for your help
A slightly more relaxed (if not a tad intoxicated) Stuart

Ballistic Banana

14,704 posts

290 months

Sunday 6th October 2002
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This reminds me of an occasion i once had in A Landrover.
I had a rear go flat and pulled over on a single carraigway but with about a metre of the black stuff after the solid white line.
Any how the jack in the Landy is one of those that sits in a little square plate on the floor, the main part out of this is like a boxed hollow piece of metal about 1mtr Long And boxed the same sort of size as a fag packet.
In this upright bit u had a bit of metal that slotted INTO the Metal bumper at the back and nearly(not quite) central,this was attached to a ratchet system in the boxed bit.Hope i Havnt losted u yet.
Well after racheting the landy up which took forever as the soft suspension and manhandleing the spare off the bonnet i found it a bit unstable as cars wher passing.
Any how the it happened didnt it, a bloody artic went past and the landy wobbled before kealing over i managed to chuck the spare under the side.
Lesson was learnt about these crappy jacks and we allways call the local tyre company out now.
I couldnt believe these were so unstable though on a vehicle that can go anywhere and it may be needed to be worked on any where.

BB

dennisthemenace

15,605 posts

291 months

Sunday 6th October 2002
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This reminds me of an occasion i once had in A Landrover.
I had a rear go flat and pulled over on a single carraigway but with about a metre of the black stuff after the solid white line.
Any how the jack in the Landy is one of those that sits in a little square plate on the floor, the main part out of this is like a boxed hollow piece of metal about 1mtr Long And boxed the same sort of size as a fag packet.
In this upright bit u had a bit of metal that slotted INTO the Metal bumper at the back and nearly(not quite) central,this was attached to a ratchet system in the boxed bit.Hope i Havnt losted u yet.
Well after racheting the landy up which took forever as the soft suspension and manhandleing the spare off the bonnet i found it a bit unstable as cars wher passing.
Any how the it happened didnt it, a bloody artic went past and the landy wobbled before kealing over i managed to chuck the spare under the side.
Lesson was learnt about these crappy jacks and we allways call the local tyre company out now.
I couldnt believe these were so unstable though on a vehicle that can go anywhere and it may be needed to be worked on any where.

BB



I had a similar thing happen to me when i borrowed my mums landy not nice , PS dont tell her about the off roading it used to get

tvradict

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3,829 posts

297 months

Sunday 6th October 2002
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I couldnt believe these were so unstable though on a vehicle that can go anywhere and it may be needed to be worked on any where.



Thats what gets me. In my astra the jack was that Sh*t that it broke when I was about to change the wheel, hadn't got the wheel off the ground, just getting a little clearance when it snapped and lodged under the car, had to get my uncle to help me get it out!

I don't get how, especially in britain, that vehicle manufacturers say, always jack up vehicle on level ground, always chock the other 3 wheels blah blah blah, but if your in the back of beyond, the highlands of scotland for instance, the chances of finding flat ground and being able to chock wheels etc are minimal.

As usual, the Germans come out on top IMO, BMW's jacks are top class! Hard for me to describe but top class anyhow!

Byff

4,427 posts

284 months

Monday 7th October 2002
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My old boss had a MG - worked on it all day, even when he was supposed to be doing proper work. Stripped it bare and rebuilt everything with devotion.

Unfortunately, he was a dangerous old bugger, forever rapping his knuckles on something that he shouldn't have been touching.

He retired April 2001. Went to get his car ready to play with in the summer and never came back.

Found him under the car. Dunno how long he was there for.

Don't FK around under cars. If you have to, make sure the thing will fall on something else and not you.

He was a good bloke.