Calling CarZee: Time to Spew Vitriol
Calling CarZee: Time to Spew Vitriol
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Don

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28,378 posts

307 months

Friday 11th October 2002
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CarZee.

I notice that relatively local to you (Pack Lane, Basingstoke) good old Basingstoke and Deane have decided to introduce new Traffic Calming measures.

7 new "Sleeping Policemen" and 3 ramps I think.

Now. Knowing this must be a route you habitually use in your fine new sports car I thought you might want to join me in cooking up some criticism for our dear old council.

Apparently even though the scheme has attracted considerable crisicism (I believe the phrase is "turning Pack Lane into an Obstacle Course") they are going ahead with it as it has "strong local support".

Who, exactly, is supporting it, I wonder...

Anyway. The Gazette is shortly to receive a few missives from me as I am unhappy at what B&D are doing in my new homeground of Kempshott but I thought you might want to pen something particulary sartirical.

Perhaps: consider the entertainment being provided to our local youth with this fine new urban rally stage?

Podie

46,647 posts

298 months

Friday 11th October 2002
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give 'em hell!

Get the ABD on it too!

CarZee

13,382 posts

290 months

Friday 11th October 2002
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WTF.. overwhelming local support from who??

where did you hear about it? (I hardly ever read the local rags except when I'm bored and fancy writing a ranty letter to them .. I usually just pick whatever's on their front page.. and generally get them published too, of course..)

they're gonna get some shite.. never mind adding more traffic calming - they were supposed to be removing the ludicrously dangerous pinch points from Long Cross Lane.

Standby for action..

Oh and if you're in Kempshott now, it's high time we went for a beer as I'm only over the road in Hatch Warren.

andymadmak

15,340 posts

293 months

Friday 11th October 2002
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Cry Havoc! and cut lose the CarZee of war....


Well, it's Friday and I'm bored.

Andy 400se

beano1197

20,854 posts

298 months

Friday 11th October 2002
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Call up the Yanks - it's a form of terrorism on anything as ground-hugging as a TVR!!!! Bomb the local authority out of their caves!!!

whatever

2,174 posts

293 months

Friday 11th October 2002
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I'm waiting to see what happens to Great Binfields Road when they get round to turning that into a 30 zone all the way to Tescos. They're bound to do something as it's often traversed at about 50, especially when it's dark.

B+D don't have a very good record, do they? Old Basing is now FUBAR, and Little London likewise. You wonder if they've got too much money and want to try to get rid of it ASAP.

I happened to bump into the transport planning people doing a "roadshow" in the shopping area about 12months ago. They were talking about how to improve traffic flow along the A33 Bas->Wellington. It turns out that their "best idea" was to reduce it from NSL to 50. No real justification, though the presence of mobile cams since gives one an idea about the true motivations. Of course, while I was chatting with the guy, another passer-by comes along and says "You're wasting your eff-ing time. I'm a trucker, I drive all the time, and what you need here is a dual-carriageway. All this [something] is just effing uringating about". Well, that told him straight, and I can't disagree.

That planning office have got lots of plans, and none of them good. And, as far as I know, none of them publicised. (cf. that locked toilet/filing cabinet in hitch-hikers)

domster

8,431 posts

293 months

Friday 11th October 2002
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Some of these 'traffic calming' measures really annoy me.

On the way to work, there is a mile long road through a village. Even in the Lotus Carlton I'd maybe only do 40 at either end, then trundle through at 30. Too many hazards for more speed, but some tosspot resident once did a bit of fistshaking when I went past him in my Rover at about 35! Must have got it confused with 135.

Anyway, some local numpty decided to get speed humps put in - 11 of the buggers in one mile, so now I avoid the place like the plague. Won't find me visiting that pub at lunch time anymore Also, it must really wind the hell out of the residents, who have a slightly slower road (30 is the maximum now, so they work!) but I bet the novelty of fractionally slower traffic has worn off now - those speed humps really jar.

What's more, they did a width restriction. Now let me get this straight, they make the roads safer by forcing cars to drive at each other head on...

One day someone will have a head on collison at the width restrictor (just after a sharp bend), and the results of the council's idiocy will be plain to see.



domster

8,431 posts

293 months

Friday 11th October 2002
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Some of these 'traffic calming' measures really annoy me.

On the way to work, there is a mile long road through a village. Even in the Lotus Carlton I'd maybe only do 40 at either end, then trundle through at 30. Too many hazards for more speed, but some tosspot resident once did a bit of fistshaking when I went past him in my Rover at about 35! Must have got it confused with 135.

Anyway, some local numpty decided to get speed humps put in - 11 of the buggers in one mile, so now I avoid the place like the plague. Won't find me visiting that pub at lunch time anymore Also, it must really wind the hell out of the residents, who have a slightly slower road (30 is the maximum now, so they work!) but I bet the novelty of fractionally slower traffic has worn off now - those speed humps really jar.

What's more, they did a width restriction. Now let me get this straight, they make the roads safer by forcing cars to drive at each other head on...

One day someone will have a head on collison at the width restrictor (just after a sharp bend), and the results of the council's idiocy will be plain to see.



JonRB

79,344 posts

295 months

Friday 11th October 2002
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I used to live in Lychpit / Chineham (nr. the big Tesco's) and cut down to the A30 through Old Basing.
God, I'm glad I don't have to do that anymore as it was becoming a nightmare, especially with the altered priorities so that through traffic now has to give way twice (how clever is that, I ask you?)

One of them is a corker. Imagine a T-juction with through traffic having right of way, converted into a 90 degree bend with limited visibility and a road on the apex of the bend and you have an idea of the latest drug-induced "traffic calming" (sic) measures.

thrust

88 posts

283 months

Friday 11th October 2002
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We've got some of those incredibly irritating (and to my mind, extremely dangerous) pinch points where they actually block the entire lane in one direction, and paint 'give way' stripes, forcing you to drive onto the wrong side of the road. These are then followed by a set of obligatory speedbumps, carefully designed to knacker the suspension of any car.

Oh, and these things are just over the brow of a hill and mark the change of speedlimit from NSL to 30mph. Fools.

EDIT: It's the road from the A505 into Melbourn into Melbourn in case anyone is familiar with it.

>> Edited by thrust on Friday 11th October 13:45

JonRB

79,344 posts

295 months

Friday 11th October 2002
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I used to live in Lychpit / Chineham (nr. the big Tesco's) and cut down to the A30 through Old Basing.
God, I'm glad I don't have to do that anymore as it was becoming a nightmare, especially with the altered priorities so that through traffic now has to give way twice (how clever is that, I ask you?)

One of them is a corker. Imagine a T-juction with through traffic having right of way, converted into a 90 degree bend with limited visibility and a road on the apex of the bend and you have an idea of the latest drug-induced "traffic calming" (sic) measures.

CarZee

13,382 posts

290 months

Friday 11th October 2002
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One day someone will have a head on collison at the width restrictor (just after a sharp bend), and the results of the council's idiocy will be plain to see.
Domster, have you seen the thing in this month's ABD newsletter about Road Engineers (hence DoT) being ruled liable for causing a road death due to a poorly engineered road?

Not in traffic calming but much like that new stretch of road where all those serious accidents occured just after it opened a few months back - I think Mel was on about it, down the A2.

Any road up, as soon as these traffic calming things cause an serious accident, I can't wait for the Blames Direct bottom-feeders to get their claws into the local road engineering office.

Edit: Mungo - it's no coincidence, mate

>> Edited by CarZee on Friday 11th October 14:01

MikeyT

17,790 posts

294 months

Friday 11th October 2002
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mungo said :You should see some of the traffic calming where I live in Locksheath -


Mungo – my mate lives in Locks Heath – do you know him? Perhaps not but you may know his wife though – Kate (forget her former second name) – but a tall blonde! We had a good night in that TGIs on the roundabout near the M27 a couple of miles away

Podie

46,647 posts

298 months

Friday 11th October 2002
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I reckon the local council got fed up of CarZee sending abusive letters about them to the local rags... so found out where he lived and thought "f--- him, we'll stick a load of traffic calming near him"...

big rumbly

973 posts

307 months

Friday 11th October 2002
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Quote"EDIT: It's the road from the A505 into Melbourn into Melbourn in case anyone is familiar with it."

Know it well Thrust, except IIRC you can dive down a side road and come out past it all, bet the proponents of the scheme did'nt think of that.
Incidentally I was the only person to object formally to the Environment and transport director of South Cambs to the traffic calming mess which is now Duxford.
My objections were heard, misquoted and ignored.
We will now have Pinch points(chicanes)amongst other crap which will see Juggernaugts to and from Hexel on the wrong side or the road.
Statement of reasons for all this mess was "percieved danger".
I wait for the first accident with anticipation, not that I want to say to anyone, "I told you so"


M@H

11,298 posts

295 months

Friday 11th October 2002
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Its amazing really.. alll our money from our road licence goes on making us nice roads to drive on, then more of our money gets spent on making them undriveable..

..I don't want my road licence spent on "percieved danger" thankyou.. !!

CarZee

13,382 posts

290 months

Friday 11th October 2002
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M@H said :..I don't want my road licence spent on "percieved danger" thankyou.. !!
Quite right - actual danger is much cheaper to come by

JSG

2,238 posts

306 months

Friday 11th October 2002
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domster said: Some of these 'traffic calming' measures really annoy me.

What's more, they did a width restriction. Now let me get this straight, they make the roads safer by forcing cars to drive at each other head on...

One day someone will have a head on collison at the width restrictor (just after a sharp bend), and the results of the council's idiocy will be plain to see.


You don't quite get this do you? Thats the whole idea, once there's been an accident they can put up a safety camera to collect lots of money

CarZee

13,382 posts

290 months

Friday 11th October 2002
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Don? Since you're back I refer you to my original question re the source of your info..

this'll give me something to do later..

danger mouse

3,829 posts

284 months

Friday 11th October 2002
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"EDIT: It's the road from the A505 into Melbourn into Melbourn in case anyone is familiar with it. "


...is it a loop?