Top 10 Greatest Britons
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CarZee

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13,382 posts

294 months

Monday 21st October 2002
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What do we reckon then.. the choice is thus:

Brunel
Churchill
Cromwell
Darwin
Diana
Elizabeth I
Lennon
Nelson
Newton
Shakespeare

For me the shortlist comes down to:

Shakespeare - For underpinning the literary heritage ofthe English language and in spite of his work being used as an instrument of torture by generations of teachers...

Darwin - For his postulates on evolution. These completely reshaped life sciences, in which he made probably the most significant theorectical breakthrough ever.

Churchill - A dog that sells cheap car insurance.

Qualia

154 posts

294 months

Monday 21st October 2002
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Wot? PetrolTed not on the list???

douglasr

1,092 posts

299 months

Monday 21st October 2002
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I cannot think of any reason why Diana is on that list. She was "just" a celebrity that met an untimely end. She did nothing to further science, politics, the arts....

flasher

9,305 posts

311 months

Monday 21st October 2002
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It should be Churchill, without a doubt. The others were all significant in History, but he led us through our darkest hours. Without his guts and never say die attitude it is too horific what the future might have held. This website wouldn't have existed for a start...

Winston should win, but the sentimental public will probably vote for Diana....IMO: good humanitarian but she didn't exactly change the course of history.

CarZee

Original Poster:

13,382 posts

294 months

Monday 21st October 2002
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are there no bonus points for being killed by the French?

incorrigible

13,668 posts

288 months

Monday 21st October 2002
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The only one I'm related to is IKB, so I'm voting for him

And, for the record, I don't think Diana should be in the top couple of million, let alone the sure fire "peoples choice"

Spooky

347 posts

288 months

Monday 21st October 2002
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I really have to say Churchill or Lennon, purely because my ignorance of history and historical people shows that I know bugger all about a queen who was married to this country in the 16th century, or a be-quilled playright who was treated with certain amounts of disdain in his day much like, say, Stephen King is today.

Some of my heroes omitted from the top ten would be people like Charles Babbage, John Cleese and Roland Rat.

SGirl

7,924 posts

288 months

Monday 21st October 2002
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How can you have Lennon and not McCartney in there??

Wouldn't vote for either of them anyway.

Incorrigible - related to?? Come on, tell all!

marki

15,763 posts

297 months

Monday 21st October 2002
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Lord Nelson ,, he kicked butt on a regular basis , sorry Thom

JonRB

79,892 posts

299 months

Monday 21st October 2002
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It would have to be IK Brunel, if only for the fact that when he built one of his tunnels, he designed and built it to such a degree of accuracy that on the day of his birthday the sun rose and shone down the length of the tunnel.


>> Edited by JonRB on Monday 21st October 10:39

mr_tony

6,349 posts

296 months

Monday 21st October 2002
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Flasher, no disrespect to Winston, but everything you said about Churchill could also be applied to Nelson, but IMHO Nelson achieved more.

Without the victory at Trafalgar Napoleon would have easily invaded England. The intent was there, he had the ships, only the channel stood in his way. The British land forces would have stood no chance of repelling his huge army. This really was make or break in the same was as the Battle of Britain.

However one could argue that Nelson was 'greater' because

1) he did the fighting
2) he died doing it (very British!)
3) he redefined naval warfare in the process.
4) he got more totty than Chrucill.
5) he didn't just ensure the survival of Britain, he actually completely anihalated the French fleet, consequently leading to Napoleons eventual downfall and paving the way for the British Empire.

He'd be my choice anyway...

FunkyGibbon

3,854 posts

291 months

Monday 21st October 2002
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I voted for IKB and FunkyGiboness voted for Lizzy I.

Though I deeply suspect that Diana will win, for all the wrong reasons.

mr_tony

6,349 posts

296 months

Monday 21st October 2002
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How can you have Lennon and not McCartney in there??


The frog song.

CarZee

Original Poster:

13,382 posts

294 months

Monday 21st October 2002
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sorry.. didn't post the link ...

www.bbc.co.uk/history/programmes/greatbritons/

it was on BBC2 last night.. but evidently, you lot were too busy watching lesbians..

AlexH

2,505 posts

311 months

Monday 21st October 2002
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They had list in the newspapers not so long ago of Top 100 which made for interesting reading.

Heres some names to throw into the ring: Sir Frank Whittle, John Logie Baird, Wellington.

Agree wholeheartly that Diana isn't fit to stand in such company.

CarZee

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13,382 posts

294 months

Monday 21st October 2002
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AlexH said: Heres some names to throw into the ring: Sir Frank Whittle, John Logie Baird, Wellington.
All made the top 100, but not the top ten..

Same for Thatcher, Alexander G Bell, Faraday, Chaucer, Babbage, Stephen Hawking, Beckham, Caxton, Bevan, Baden-Powell, Berners-Lee, Tony Benn, Blair, John Lydon, John Peel, Emmeline Pankhurst and here's an odd one - Enoch Powell came in at about #55 !

No Roland Rat though.. sorry Spooks..

incorrigible

13,668 posts

288 months

Monday 21st October 2002
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SGirl said: How can you have Lennon and not McCartney in there??

Wouldn't vote for either of them anyway.

Incorrigible - related to?? Come on, tell all!


IKB, Great^5 Uncle


How can you have Lennon and not McCartney in there??


The answer they gave last night was "Wings", agree with Mr Tony though

135sport

442 posts

307 months

Monday 21st October 2002
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I will assume that most PHers do not want or think Diana is suitable to win.

So I think it is all our responsibility to cast a vote for someone other than Diana.

Take the 2 minutes to vote, just to try and cancel out all the women / granny votes that will be received for Diana.

It's your duty......

DanL

6,586 posts

292 months

Monday 21st October 2002
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Surely Darwin or Newton, as both changed the way we view the world - something that spread far beyond the shores of this fair isle...

Dan

andymadmak

15,513 posts

297 months

Monday 21st October 2002
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My list,

Whittle
Brunel
Stevenson
Churchill
Thatcher
Darwin
Elizabeth I
Nelson
Newton
Shakespeare

Andy 400se