Car salesman's nightmare
Car salesman's nightmare
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nmlowe

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1,666 posts

290 months

Thursday 24th October 2002
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I took took dog for a walk today up a local hill. The road up to it is the B5062, which is has some nice bends and long straights on it. About a mile and a half from the nearest gathering of local car main dealers Perfect for a test drive of a new car perhaps?

I came around one bend to find a Brand new
Mini cooper S, '52' plates, a trade plate hanging from the rear wiper. It was really clean with shiny tyres.
There were two blokes pushing it from the middle of the road to the side. One was a young lad, and the other was a guy in a suit...... I wonder if the lad bought the car in the end?

yertis

19,540 posts

289 months

Thursday 24th October 2002
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Mrs Y is pestering me for one of these - I shall point her at this thread...

tuffer

8,962 posts

290 months

Thursday 24th October 2002
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True, my new motor only came with a drip of fuel and being a WRX it dos'nt last long.

Marcos Maniac

3,148 posts

284 months

Thursday 24th October 2002
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tuffer said: True, my new motor only came with a drip of fuel and being a WRX it dos'nt last long.


You don't get owt for nowt - nowadays

after spending £XXXX's on a new car you would think that you would get a tank of bloody fuel thrown in after all the price you pay is 'On The Road' not 'stuck on the forecourt' because you have got no bloody fuel.

thrust

88 posts

283 months

Thursday 24th October 2002
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I got at least half a mile down the road before the fuel warning light came on in my shiny new Punto last year. Tightwads

tuffer

8,962 posts

290 months

Thursday 24th October 2002
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No fuel and no mats, they will be £50 extra sir...oh yes and you owe us £35 for the air in your tyres!!!

:climbsdownoffhissoapboxandputsthekettleon:

nmlowe

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1,666 posts

290 months

Thursday 24th October 2002
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My mum used to work for Leoni wiring (They laid half the workforce off last week).
They used to manufacture harnesses and wiring looms for headlights of MG-Rover, Mini and Toyota.

All the work has gone to Egypt in the last couple of months because of cheaper labour, and the workmanship of the product has fallen to a point where less than half of the leads manufacturered would pass a quality control test.
Not just poor quality, but in many cases just wrongly wired.
Nevertheless, with the whole operation being in egypt now, QC dept. has passed all of the leads produced and shipped them to the car manufacturers.
A recent case has seen some Mini headlights started failing because of poor quality leads, which are not waterproof.

BUT the car companies keep demanding cheaper components.

What about that VW lock thing? did anyone see that on watchdog, where most new Volkswagens could be broken into in less than '9 sec' because of a badly designed lock. VW says it doesn't think there is a problem and shall not be re-designing the locks until the cars are due for a facelift/replacment.

Where do the car companies draw the line between cheap parts and quality?

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tuffer

8,962 posts

290 months

Thursday 24th October 2002
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nmlowe said:

Where do the car companies draw the line between cheap parts and quality?

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Wherever they like, they no we are all hooked on the internal combustion engine and life would not be worth living without it !!

thrust

88 posts

283 months

Thursday 24th October 2002
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I read in Car Magazine a few months back that even Mercedes have outsourced all their interior parts production to the lowest bidder - needless to say that the columnist felt that the build quality had nose-dived as a result - and this is supposed to be a premium motorcar!

tuffer

8,962 posts

290 months

Thursday 24th October 2002
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Clarkson said the same thing in the Times a few weeks back.

nmlowe

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290 months

Thursday 24th October 2002
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And wer'e not seeing any considerable drops in prices as a result of cheaper parts fitted either?

Where does the money go? or is that a silly question?

Don

28,378 posts

307 months

Thursday 24th October 2002
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Marcos Maniac said:

tuffer said: True, my new motor only came with a drip of fuel and being a WRX it dos'nt last long.


You don't get owt for nowt - nowadays

after spending £XXXX's on a new car you would think that you would get a tank of bloody fuel thrown in after all the price you pay is 'On The Road' not 'stuck on the forecourt' because you have got no bloody fuel.




Thumbs up to AFN/Porsche then. Still haven't used up the completely full tank I got when I picked it up.

And think my trade-in was running on vapour....

nmlowe

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290 months

Thursday 24th October 2002
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If quality of mainstream manufacturers continues to drop, How long will it be before TVR gets nominated for the TUV awards for Best build quality and reliability?

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iguana

7,301 posts

283 months

Thursday 24th October 2002
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Don said:

completely full tank I got when I picked it up.

And think my trade-in was running on vapour....



Ah but I know how they can afford to do that. I'll bet AFN make something like an £8K profit from your trade in, hmm a nice Boxter S that will be in the showroom about 20 seconds too...

Bodo

12,492 posts

289 months

Thursday 24th October 2002
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nmlowe said: If quality of mainstream manufacturers continues to drop, How long will it be before TVR gets nominated for the TUV awards for Best build quality and reliability?

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4 years, 2 months and 17 days. Go on, TVR, get type approval and sell on the continent!

nmlowe

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Thursday 24th October 2002
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4 years, 2 months and 17 days. Go on, TVR, get type approval and sell on the continent!



Indeed, Very good news. Hopefully, if the rest of europe take to the marque as the British have it will see much more money being pumped into development of future models. Now TVR should get the international recignition it deserves
Just think of the possibilities:
More Unique Cars!!!!
Lets hope they don't use that money to build boring cars and get greedy like the maistream marques.

Yipee!!!!!


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Bodo

12,492 posts

289 months

Thursday 24th October 2002
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100% agreed!

Graham.J

5,420 posts

282 months

Thursday 24th October 2002
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Don said:Thumbs up to AFN/Porsche then. Still haven't used up the completely full tank I got when I picked it up.

And think my trade-in was running on vapour....



Is that the Guildford branch, I worked in service there for work experience, top bunch of blokes, the guy I worked with said something about always selling cars with a full tank, something about if your spending that much on a car then a full tank of petrol is nothing!

I fully agree, when my mum bought her corsa we only just made it to the petrol station about 1 mile down the road! tight fisted bs

mondeoman

11,430 posts

289 months

Friday 25th October 2002
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nmlowe said: And wer'e not seeing any considerable drops in prices as a result of cheaper parts fitted either?

Where does the money go? or is that a silly question?


it goes (indirectly or directly) into your pension fund..... funny ol world really

RiverGirrl

857 posts

304 months

Friday 25th October 2002
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nmlowe said:
What about that VW lock thing? did anyone see that on watchdog, where most new Volkswagens could be broken into in less than '9 sec' because of a badly designed lock. VW says it doesn't think there is a problem and shall not be re-designing the locks until the cars are due for a facelift/replacment.


Hmm. I wish I had known this before. My '00 V-reg Golf was broken into last February. These guys knew what they were doing. They removed the driver's door lock cylinder very neatly, removed my Kenwood stereo very neatly, and re-locked the door very neatly. The Golf never knew what happened. They had somehow by-passed the alarm system completely...and the car sits right outside my house!!