What is this world coming to ?
What is this world coming to ?
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levensnevel

Original Poster:

245 posts

295 months

Thursday 24th October 2002
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It won't come as a surprise that the 'members' cars' section is my favorite part on this website.
I love to read all those wonderful stories.
Took a closer look recently and and came to the conclusion that 92 out of the top 100 'most viewed' cars are either TVR or Lotus. When I close my eyes and dream away into a world in which all my wishes have come true I would definetely own either a Taimar or an Exige.
But how come that the top 6 features just 2 TVR's and that 'mainstream' models like the VW Corrado and (a little bit) my Blue Bell take the honours.

Who can enlighten me

Levensnevel

Bodo

12,492 posts

289 months

Thursday 24th October 2002
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Most viewed cars depend on what their owners appear on the forums or contributed to their car's history; except those who manipulated the statistics

It's a human thing, not a machine thing.

>> Edited by Bodo on Thursday 24th October 22:48

david_h

579 posts

286 months

Friday 25th October 2002
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Says it all really, too many TVR owners on here.

Don't ever say anything like "old TVR's are pig ugly and unreliable", else you will get flammed big time.

Only joking, top bunch of people on this board. Tend to read more than post, but great info. No immaturity etc. The only problem i have is cause I don't own a TVR (test drove a ceberra didn't like it) daren't say too much car related.

mondeoman

11,430 posts

289 months

Friday 25th October 2002
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david_h said: Says it all really, too many TVR owners on here.

Don't ever say anything like "old TVR's are pig ugly and unreliable", else you will get flammed big time.

Only joking, top bunch of people on this board. Tend to read more than post, but great info. No immaturity etc. The only problem i have is cause I don't own a TVR (test drove a ceberra didn't like it) daren't say too much car related.


Didn't like it - why pray tell???

david_h

579 posts

286 months

Friday 25th October 2002
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mondeoman said:

david_h said: Says it all really, too many TVR owners on here.

Don't ever say anything like "old TVR's are pig ugly and unreliable", else you will get flammed big time.

Only joking, top bunch of people on this board. Tend to read more than post, but great info. No immaturity etc. The only problem i have is cause I don't own a TVR (test drove a ceberra didn't like it) daren't say too much car related.


Didn't like it - why pray tell???




Firstly there are 4 in my road to start with.
It was yellow.
The engine is from a Rover.(correct me if am wrong pls)
Bit of trim fell off the door when I opened it.
Felt a bit cramped.
Friend of a friend sold his and bought a mini due to reliability problems.
Visibility isn't great for driving in London.
It's by far the best looking TVR, don't get me wrong, and sounds fantastic.
Don't trust myself with RWD especially in the wet, not a great driver, brought up on FWD cars and haven't really experience lift of o/steer in them.
Too much power too young = write car off (and I could see it happening with this one).

kevinday

13,675 posts

303 months

Friday 25th October 2002
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Just to correct you, the Cerbera engine is a TVR own designed and built unit. The earlier TVRs (Wedge, V8S, Griffith and Chimaera) used the very reliable Rover V8 lump.

david_h

579 posts

286 months

Friday 25th October 2002
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Thanks for correcting me, not v.good with TVR's.
Bow to your knowledge.
So do you concur with any of these thoughts?

incorrigible

13,668 posts

284 months

Friday 25th October 2002
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david_h said: Thanks for correcting me, not v.good with TVR's.
Bow to your knowledge.
So do you concur with any of these thoughts?

No,
If there were 4 Ferraris in my road I'd still want one
Buy a different colour then
Door trim, hmmm
Even if it was a Rover engine, what's the problem
Can't believe it felt cramped. How tall are you?
poor him, but don't forget TVRs are "enthusiasts cars" they require much more attention than a Mundaneo
Buy a soft roader then, or a transit

I don't subscribe to the "too young for that much power" argument, I wrote off my first car (a Beetle) and that only had 50hp. It's driving like a tt that crashes cars, thinking you're better than you are, not power

Buy the most powerfull thing you can afford, and worry about everything else later




JonRB

79,373 posts

295 months

Friday 25th October 2002
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My Corrado is the most viewed car in Member's Cars?? Why?

levensnevel

Original Poster:

245 posts

295 months

Friday 25th October 2002
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Jon,

must be your 2.157 posts, can't think of any other reason.
No seriously, you've got a magnificent set of wheels. Shame that in our country most Corrado's have fallen victim to boy racers

Levensnevel

nmlowe

1,666 posts

290 months

Friday 25th October 2002
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kevinday said: Just to correct you, the Cerbera engine is a TVR own designed and built unit. The earlier TVRs (Wedge, V8S, Griffith and Chimaera) used the very reliable Rover V8 lump.


Funnily enough, the V8 unit used was based on a Buick design modified by Rover (or British Leyland, as it was at the time).
The Rover 'SD1' engine has appeared in a multitude of cars including the Discovery, Range Rover (not sure if the very latest Range Rover uses it), Lotus Esprit V8, and of course the TVR's.

I saw it on some Jeremy Clarkson thing about two years ago.

Very versatile engine. Been around for donkeys years in various states of tune. Good Old tried and tested V8 Grunt!


>> Edited by nmlowe on Friday 25th October 23:53

Bodo

12,492 posts

289 months

Friday 25th October 2002
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nmlowe said:

Funnily enough, the V8 unit used was based on a Buick design modified by Rover (or British Leyland, as it was at the time).
The engine has appeared in a multitude of cars including the Discovery, Range Rover (not sure if the very latest Range Rover uses it), Lotus Esprit V8, and of course the TVR's.

I saw it on some Jeremy Clarkson thing about two years ago.

I thought the AJP series engines and the 4.5 developed for the Cerbera were TVR designed, Not the engines in the Chimaera and the Griffith, which are Rover based???




>> Edited by nmlowe on Friday 25th October 23:36


IIRC, the Lotus V8 is Lotus' own design.
Rover bought the Buick V8 in the mid sixties, and had numerous tests (in a Land Rover 88" doing 90mph on the M1, when most passenger cars had a max. speed about 80 ) with them, until they've droped it in the P5B (not sure, if this is the first Rover car having a V8). The last Rover saloon with V8 was the SD1; however the latest Range Rover is supplied with a BMW V8; the 4.6HSE seems to me to be the last Rover-labeled product having a Rover V8. (please correct me if any of above is wrong)
Does Morgan still use Rover V8s?


Bodo

Ballistic Banana

14,704 posts

290 months

Friday 25th October 2002
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david_h said: It was yellow.





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Esprit

6,373 posts

306 months

Saturday 26th October 2002
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Bodo - You are indeed correct, the Lotus V8 is it's own design (although I'm not sure if the block shares some similar architecture or not) but since the Lotus V8 (like TVR's V8 and Ferrari V8's) are flat-plane-crank V8's as opposed to all other V8's which are Cross-plane. This basically comes down to the fact that although a flat-plane V8 is less balanced than a cross-plane can be, it has a lot less rotational mass at the bottom end making for a freer revving engine. As the two require some significant differences in engine architecture I severely doubt there's any similarity between the engines.
The Morgan +8 still uses the Rover unit in 3.9 nd 4.6L versions I believe although of course the Aero 8 uses the 5.0L unit from the BMW M5 (oh what an engine THAT is)
And just before I remove my anorak, did you also know that the MG Metro 6R4 engine is basically a Rover V8 Block with 2-cylinders chopped-off and 24-Valve Goodman heads fitted......Jaguar even bolted a couple of hairdryers on it and slotted it in the back of the XJ220...... Kind of ironic, yet fitting that the powerplant of one of Britain's most revered supercars has it's roots in the trusty old 3.5L Rover bent 8

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