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Any of you lot got this? I seem to be quite bad right now, mybe you've noticed my rapid change in mood while posting..
Anyway, winter sucks, and I feel s**t from when I get up, to when I go to sleep. Apart from going out thrashing, nothing really interests me.
So, seasonal affected disorder... any cures?
C
Anyway, winter sucks, and I feel s**t from when I get up, to when I go to sleep. Apart from going out thrashing, nothing really interests me.
So, seasonal affected disorder... any cures?
C
stupid hypocrit Chistmas event now! 
Just keep reminding yourself there is only 5 weeks to go and then the nights start drawing out again.
I hate not seeing my house/garden in daylight expect at weekends - when I am usually doing other things and too busy to look or it is raining. Depressing! Could be worse - in Iceland they only get about 3/4 hours of daylight in December.
I hate not seeing my house/garden in daylight expect at weekends - when I am usually doing other things and too busy to look or it is raining. Depressing! Could be worse - in Iceland they only get about 3/4 hours of daylight in December.
We were talking about this in the office today. I certainly think a lot of people suffer from it, but probably don't realise why!
I certainly can't wait for some sunshine again.
However, I also hate this weather 'cos it means my car's filthy all the time, despite cleaning it once a week. But that's a different sort of sad
I certainly can't wait for some sunshine again.
However, I also hate this weather 'cos it means my car's filthy all the time, despite cleaning it once a week. But that's a different sort of sad
I think we all suffer to some extent from it...one of my customers is in Finland and I was there when it stayed light till around midnight and it was like a never ending party....as flash will testify, I kept texting him from 'The Leningrad Cowboys' boozer watching a f**king excellent band in Helsinki. November sucks there though
I suffer from it. I saw my GP and then a "so called" specialist. She basically told me to spend nearly £1000 on these fancy special flourescent light fittings which I was supposed to bolt to the wall. The idea is that the tubes give you natural day light, which is supposed to trick your brain into thinking its summer time still. What a load of old b0l0x. In the catalogue it showed a woman sitting down on a sofa looking at a wall covered in lights. A cross between a tanning sunbed, and a nightclub. I took one look at this, and realised that no way would my brain be tricked as sun light doesn't look like 8 8ft tubes stuck to the wall. God knows how much the electric bill runs into.
If I get down now, I put a brave face on and go and see some good mates and have a laugh. Thinking about the lights is laughter therapy in itself, and that is how I deal with it now. I new I wasnt right for a long time before I was diagnosed, but I would have never put it down to this. Also, if you sit in front of your PC monitor for long enough posting on PH, then you get enough light from there.
Good luck with your fight.
If I get down now, I put a brave face on and go and see some good mates and have a laugh. Thinking about the lights is laughter therapy in itself, and that is how I deal with it now. I new I wasnt right for a long time before I was diagnosed, but I would have never put it down to this. Also, if you sit in front of your PC monitor for long enough posting on PH, then you get enough light from there.
Good luck with your fight.
SAD is pretty serious for those who suffer from it. With reference to ultimasimon talking about the tubes - it's not just your brain that the lights trick, in fact the real reason associated with SAD is that not enough sunlight gets to the skin.
Perhaps you should be open to trying these things before you dismiss them outright.
A good friend of mine was almost intollerable during the winter months and it took a fair bit of strain on his mates. He dismissed the tube lights to begin with, but once he'd put up with them, he actually found they helped.
Perhaps you should be open to trying these things before you dismiss them outright.
A good friend of mine was almost intollerable during the winter months and it took a fair bit of strain on his mates. He dismissed the tube lights to begin with, but once he'd put up with them, he actually found they helped.
The theory about SAD is that in winter, low light level detected through the eyes, causes a reduction in activity of the pineal gland, which is situated in your brain, roughly along a line between the centre of your skull, and the crown of your head. In reptiles, it is called the third eye (mungo, no nob jokes please!); reduction in activity of this area is supposed to reduce serotonin levels in the brain, the so-called "happy chemical", which is also reduced in a lot of people with depression. Thus, low light in winter -> depression.
The light boxes don't need to be £1000. They are available from about £90, but a decent one is about £180-200, AFAIK. Remember, it's the eyes that need the daylight stimulation, not the skin. It does work, and I have often wondered about getting one.
That'll be 75 guineas please!!
The light boxes don't need to be £1000. They are available from about £90, but a decent one is about £180-200, AFAIK. Remember, it's the eyes that need the daylight stimulation, not the skin. It does work, and I have often wondered about getting one.
That'll be 75 guineas please!!
northernboy said: The answer is staring you all in the face.
Alcohol.
Man invented beer before he invented bread, for a damned good reason.
Go out, get drunk, be sick, wat a kebab, and all will be well.
We agree on this!
I suffer horribly with it. Makes me go moody and depressed. I find throwing myself into some of my indoor pusuits helps.
I mean...playing the guitar etc..of course. That and getting the roof off at every available opportunity during the winter weekends anyway. One good frosty blast = one week of being able to put up with the dark and the rain.
nubbin said: The theory about SAD is that in winter, low light level detected through the eyes, causes a reduction in activity of the pineal gland, which is situated in your brain, roughly along a line between the centre of your skull, and the crown of your head. In reptiles, it is called the third eye (mungo, no nob jokes please!); reduction in activity of this area is supposed to reduce serotonin levels in the brain, the so-called "happy chemical", which is also reduced in a lot of people with depression. Thus, low light in winter -> depression.
The light boxes don't need to be £1000. They are available from about £90, but a decent one is about £180-200, AFAIK. Remember, it's the eyes that need the daylight stimulation, not the skin. It does work, and I have often wondered about getting one.
That'll be 75 guineas please!!
Nubbin - seem to recall you're a GP, so I'll bow to your superior knowledge, although I have read that SAD is also affected by the skin (hence my previous comments).
In your opinion, how would reflected light (as used in an uplighter) benefit SAD? Given that reflected light is regarded as being better for the eyes...
apache said: I think we all suffer to some extent from it...one of my customers is in Finland and I was there when it stayed light till around midnight and it was like a never ending party....as flash will testify, I kept texting him from 'The Leningrad Cowboys' boozer watching a f**king excellent band in Helsinki. November sucks there though
Hey, I've been there! good beers too. Summer in Finland is great.
Thanks for the replies peeps. Think I need to buy a light-gadget.
Carl
Let's face it - a couple of hundred years of 'civilisation' can't overcome a billion years of evolution: I still find the natural urge to hibernate is hard to resist some times 
But seriously, SAD sucks really bad - both my wife and myself have suffered from it on and off over the past several years - you have my sympathy
But seriously, SAD sucks really bad - both my wife and myself have suffered from it on and off over the past several years - you have my sympathy
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