New Roller and Aston ?
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Farmer

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1,287 posts

301 months

Friday 3rd January 2003
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Anybody care to comment ?

to my eyes the Roller looks great from the side , less so from the back and pug ugly from the front , good luck to them though

The Aston is perfect( even though you can get golf clubs in it ), just sell it like it is fellas, you know you want to ,

MDG

118 posts

285 months

Friday 3rd January 2003
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I've seen pictures of the Aston (nice!) but where can I see the new Rolls?

MDG.

granville

18,764 posts

288 months

Friday 3rd January 2003
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In the latest EVO mag, I find the piccies of the Rolls quite disturbing.

Puke is the first thing that comes to mind. BMW seems to be on an uglier than thou trip these days (new 7, Z4, new 5s...)

Th'Aston looks much better and will certainly whoop the derriere of the 911 in the sales stakes and just may take the odd Itallian scalp too. (But F1 change again, though? Oh bugger.)

GrahamG

1,091 posts

294 months

Friday 3rd January 2003
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Just seen a pic of the Roller - Absolutely foul - So no change there then under german ownership!

Imelda

793 posts

293 months

Friday 3rd January 2003
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Oooooooh look..... 500 posts...... errr .... sorry, where was I? Ah yes............

Aston - I want one, and I want it now!

Rolls - 'Nuff said.

RichB

56,037 posts

311 months

Friday 3rd January 2003
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Saw this new Rolls in EVo yesteday and almost fell off my chair laughing! Well actually it's quite sad, because I reckon this could be the end of the line for Rolls. With so many excellent new luxury plutocrat barges launching onto the market these days I just cannot see BMW shifting more than a small handfull of these. And... seeing as they have invested millions into a new factory in Sussex which presumably employs local people it would have been good for us if the "new Rolls" had been a cracking good car. It's not. VW will be laughing all the way to Le Mans! Rich...

TheLemming

4,319 posts

292 months

Friday 3rd January 2003
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The new Rolls... Words cant express how terribly ugly this car actually is...

Surely the old Rolls Royces were about elegance, with a hint of brutality supplied by the slab vertical grille. This new car carries none of the style the brand's heritage demands. It doesnt deserve to carry the sprit of ecstasy.

The Aston on the other hand looks awesome. Its a gorgeous car from every angle Ive seen and looks to offer a real rival to Porshe's 911 Carrera.

The interior on the show car is only 75% accurate to the production model (according to CAR) however it looks sublime.

I cant see a thing wrong with it. 2 seats, plenty of luggage space, 50/50 weight distribution, grunty V8 engine - Perfection on wheels.

Oi_Oi_Savaloy

2,315 posts

287 months

Friday 3rd January 2003
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The Rolls Royce - quite, quite appallingly bad. I'd even consider the Maybach instead (if I was in a position to do so!). And the Maybach is equally horrendous.

The front of the RR is truly something to behold. Is it meant to be a pastiche of all things RR past or is supposed to be taken seriously? The rectangular headlights are straight off Penelope's pink RR in Thunderbirds (and I really dislike puppets on string).

williamp

20,280 posts

300 months

Friday 3rd January 2003
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Can't wait for the new Aston to appear.

Car magazine call it wither AM305 or V8 Vantage. If they call it the latter then I'm laughing- I own the numberplate "V8 VTG", bought purely to sell to city types for a large amount of money. I cannot wait...

early DBS V8 here we come!!!

(Nevermind about running costs, etc etc...!)

pies

13,116 posts

283 months

Friday 3rd January 2003
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havent seen the aston yet but the RR is pug ugly

Farmer

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1,287 posts

301 months

Friday 3rd January 2003
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Fairly unnnnannnnimmmmous so far then

dazren

22,612 posts

288 months

Friday 3rd January 2003
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Farmer said: Fairly unnnnannnnimmmmous so far then

Seems to be a concensus on bloody ghastly.

The front looks worse than Lady Penelope's pink "FAB1" job, this one needs the plate "UGL1".

As pointed out on sniffpetrol.com the rest of the car isn't that dissimilar to an early eighties Cadillac.

DAZ

(My opinion doesn't "really" count as I'd never be in the market for a Rolls Royce)

adove

145 posts

286 months

Friday 3rd January 2003
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one word - "Camargue"

k27

186 posts

305 months

Friday 3rd January 2003
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I do wish Aston would start building sports cars though.

Farmer

Original Poster:

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301 months

Saturday 4th January 2003
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k27 said: I do wish Aston would start building sports cars though.


Agree but this looks as close as were going to get , certainly a lot closer than the "re-hashed XJS" (but I wouldn't say no) DB7 . and probably as close as the modern 911 is , not that I'd know unfortunately

bruce fielding

2,244 posts

309 months

Saturday 4th January 2003
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Dazren & Oi Oi - absolutely right! First thought was "Yes, m'lady". Gerry Anderson should sue!

granville

18,764 posts

288 months

Saturday 4th January 2003
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Just had a quick gander in the latest CAR mag - still staggeringly pukeworthy but not AS bad as the shots in EVO; it probably will have, erm, presecence? (Then again, so would a firkin' combine harvester!)

And inside; my conspiracy theory about ze homogenous German takeover finds more credability with a distictly Range Rover/Phaeton/Toureg/Audi/God-knows- what-else-within-the-Ferdinand-Piech-World-Order centre dash layout...

Oh, I'm sure the experience is quite sublime; it DOES have a certain Lady Penelope, post modern imperial Anglo-Nazi stomp about it and might confer upon the occupants a most disturbingly hedonistic sense of 'uberdom' but hold on a mo...it's supposed to be a Rolls Royce.

I have grave misgivings about the new Bentley but this? This really is a Piech too far - let's hope the boys from Navarone do the decent thing and scupper it quick sticks. It is an abortion and it deserves to die, purely because of what it represents.

The vulgarity of it's line only kicks the corpse of Albion's faded majesty.

Dear God, no.

P.S. In a world of Brabae EV12s, mega Audis and the rest, I feel desperate for a shot of genuinely home grown, staggeringly well engineered, designed and performing muscle.

Step forward Mr.Wheeler; let's get the QC issues resolved and start trading on the brand name because let's face it - IF you knew a Tiv was as technically competent as something from Europe AND it had the quality (and price to match, natch), wouldn't you buy British?

Peter F

27 posts

294 months

Saturday 4th January 2003
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You'll find a lot of pics of the new Roller here
www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame.mv?file=car.mv&num=1568

I LOVE IT!

Cheers

granville

18,764 posts

288 months

Saturday 4th January 2003
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But, but - it's got that infernal i-Drive thing in it! (I.e. Just 'another' corporate rebadger...)

The quality will be staggering but no more so than any current German creation so it's nowtbutanother fantasy workout for the leather boys from Munchen.

Ok, not QUITE as awful as I first thought to behold (who can deny the Wagnerian, Maybachesque swagger) but it's a bloody Zeppelin!

(Still - I love the brolly in the door gimmick - a 'proper' bespoke touch, granted )





dazren

22,612 posts

288 months

Saturday 4th January 2003
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Cheers Peter

Excellent photos.

I'm quite impressed with the rear accomodation, far more room than in a Seraph.

But I'm now thinking the front of the car reminds me of those bloody big american trucks (Big tall grill, small oblong headlights set high up) You know the type, Lord Eubank of Brighton & Hove has got one.

DAZ

>> Edited by dazren on Saturday 4th January 12:23