Any medics in da house?
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Graham.J

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5,420 posts

286 months

Sunday 5th January 2003
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I don't know how it's spelt so I'll spell it phonetically but, my hands and feet ALWAYS seem to be cold even when I have jumper on with hands inside, and feet in socks and shoes.

My mum thinks it may be 'crones' disease but as I can't spell it, can't find any information on it?

Anyone care to shed any light on the matter?

Cheers

Graham

mannginger

10,226 posts

284 months

Sunday 5th January 2003
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Ah - it's back. Graham have just sent you an e-mail, but have a look in Google under the search "Cold hands and feet" loads of stuff there, but the main thing that keeps appearing is "Reynauds disease" Could be that - no mention of "Crones" that I could see.

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FunkyNige

9,785 posts

302 months

Sunday 5th January 2003
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Google is your friend...
www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=crohn%27s+disease&spell=1

I'm not a doctor so I'll shut up now.

Edit - a friend of mine said her hands and feet were always cold and she was told she had 'bad circulation', dunno what that means though.

>> Edited by FunkyNige on Sunday 5th January 23:42

danhf

349 posts

283 months

Sunday 5th January 2003
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Crohns disease is to do with your bum mate.

Your problem sounds like bad circulation.

Dan

PS I wouldn't recommend looking for a disease - you'll probably find loads you didn't know you had.

>> Edited by danhf on Sunday 5th January 23:37

dennisthemenace

15,605 posts

295 months

Sunday 5th January 2003
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hi graham ive sent you one too it will make no sense but might be fun to read take it easy

Getrag

313 posts

289 months

Sunday 5th January 2003
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Crohn's disease isnt the first thing you should think of. And in children it tends to produce, a failure to thrive, decreased growth velocity and delayed puberty, all of which I think your not lacking in It may however show signs of anaemia, so if your worried, go to your GP.

Most likely answer, your tall and thin and as a result have colder extremities.

>> Edited by Getrag on Sunday 5th January 23:44

Graham.J

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5,420 posts

286 months

Sunday 5th January 2003
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Cheers everyone,

Phil, Denny got yer mails.

I think Getrag may be right, my skin is rather thin at the moment, lost quite a bit of weight through M.E.

I know I'm not anaemic, the 5 blood tests I had confirmed that, I do think it's bad circulation though, white takes quite a few seconds to go on hands after pressure is applied.

Will search google and see what I can find.

Graham.J

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5,420 posts

286 months

Monday 6th January 2003
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DING!!!!

Just did a search on google, first website I went on:

Chronic Fatigue / Fibromyalgia Syndrome - Raynaud's phenomenon (severe cold hands and feet) affects about 16% of fibromyalgia sufferers.

Chronic Fatigue is the same as M.E. there's me answer.

Cheers everyone.

speedbird1950

11 posts

283 months

Monday 6th January 2003
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Graham, I assume that your doctor checked your blood/sugar levels to ascertain you aren't diabetic?

Diabetics suffer extreme tiredness without treatment but you would also be drinking copious quantities of liquids and would notice this as another symptom...... just a thought.

As you say, it's probably related to the ME but it IS poor circulation that produces the cold sensation at the extremities. For this reason you should also get your blood pressure measured to ensure it's not related to other conditions.

Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

294 months

Monday 6th January 2003
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mannginger said: Ah - it's back. Graham have just sent you an e-mail, but have a look in Google under the search "Cold hands and feet" loads of stuff there, but the main thing that keeps appearing is "Reynauds disease" Could be that - no mention of "Crones" that I could see.

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I apparently Have 'Reynauds Phenomenom' (sp?)(as it was called to me i'm a Phenomenom.

It was diagnosed after complaining at work of having pins and needles alot in my hands and feet.

I thought it Was a sympton called 'White Finger', caused by using Vibration tools(ooh Matron) .

Apparently it is because i work out side and use Vibrating tools, which when cold also incourages the viens to close in your hands/feet and then they take a long time re-opening.
Thats why u get pins and needles/numbness and they might feel cold to touch.
Theres no Known cure except trying to avoid the things that set it off.

BB

viperman

956 posts

292 months

Monday 6th January 2003
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crones disease is to do with your digestive system, stomach and intestines, my mate has it and it is that bad that he has to take most food through a drip and he cant touch diary products

Psychobert

6,318 posts

283 months

Monday 6th January 2003
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Stress is a major factor in both generally cold hands and feet and in Reynauds. When stressed the blood is diverted away from certain areas like the extremities and stomach thereby freeing up more to go to muscles for the fight or flight type reaction. Thats one reason why when nervous or stressed you get the butterflies in the stomach feeling..

Lots of poor circulation type problems are compounded severely by stress. These days eliminating stress isn't really an option, but reducing it or learning to deal with it better should help..

Marshy

2,751 posts

311 months

Monday 6th January 2003
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Actually Chrones (Krones? Crones? Whatever...) can be pretty much the whole digestive system from end to, er, end. Not good.

Doctor friend of mine was talking about it last week. Graham, if you want me to ask her about your symptoms, I'll ask her tomorrow.

Graham.J

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286 months

Monday 6th January 2003
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Cheers Marshy, I checked a website out and as I said in the post before, cold hands and feet are common in M.E. sufferers, not really worried anymore.

Cheers again everyone.

pbrettle

3,280 posts

310 months

Tuesday 7th January 2003
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Chrones (SP?) is an disease / inflamation of the lower bowel usually (though as Marshy says, it can affect the whole digestive system). Treat your "guts" well and you shouldnt have too much of a problem. A little too much of the trigger food (usually rich, but could be wheat etc) and you will be doubled over in pain...

A friend of the bread knife's had it - Addenbrookes in Cambridge is the leading centre in Europe for treatment of it and you can have a rather nasty invasive operation to remove sections of the gut to reduce the symptoms. She's had that op and much much better now. So much so that shes had a little boy now - which would have been impossible with chrones... you should have seen the pain killers she had - could have made a fortune selling those at the local cattle market...

Cheers,

Paul

P.S. As for the original post - sounds like bad circulation. You can take some drugs for it - but better off with being fit and healthy... though before anyone says anything, I know "glass houses etc etc"

Graham.J

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Tuesday 7th January 2003
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pbrettle said:P.S. As for the original post - sounds like bad circulation. You can take some drugs for it - but better off with being fit and healthy... though before anyone says anything, I know "glass houses etc etc"



I agree I think alot of it is to do with being fit and healthy, which I am but have not been getting any exercise for a few months, now I have bought myself an exercise bike I'm getting some exercise but not too much as it tends to make the symptoms of M.E. come on stronger, vicious circle really! BAH!

Gaffer

7,156 posts

304 months

Tuesday 7th January 2003
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I have Crohns. if you need info give me a shout its my specialist subject.

craigw

12,248 posts

309 months

Tuesday 7th January 2003
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My g/f has reynauds, I think its Ginkco Biloba that helps to alleviate it.

ehasler

8,579 posts

310 months

Tuesday 7th January 2003
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Graham,

Boots do a supplement for helping improve blood circulation.

www.wellbeing.com/shop/product_details.jsp?productid=1023344

Might be worth a look.

Graham.J

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5,420 posts

286 months

Tuesday 7th January 2003
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Cheers Ed, need to get some photo's developed sometime, how handy!!!