Rogue state

[elanturbo]

So Jack Straw now thinks there is a risk that Iraq is supplying terrorists with weapons of mass destruction?
Lets see the proof before you start a war, you stupid t**d.

Does anyone else feel patronised by this nonsense?

... and the moon is made of blue cheese!

[daydreamer]

Bremner, Bird & Fortune did a good examination program based on Iraq last night - did it very well, and dug up some history that the powers that be would like to forget. Obviously, not the best source, but IIRC most of the content was accurate and well put across.

i.e. who was the first person to bomb the Iraqi Kurds (Winston Chirchill). Who was the first person to authorise the use of mustard gas against this group of people - yes, one and the same ex British PM.

Who wanted to go in and get Sadam 10 years ago - Osama Bin Liner - so WTF makes them best friends now then?

I think that the spin machine has been well and truely brought into action - a balanced view in the UK / US press. Fat 'kin chance .

[pies]

whats the deffinition of a rogue state and who makes the deffinition
Dont suppose it could be as simple as "a state which has different opinions/culture than ours"

[HiRich]

daydreamer said: Bremner, Bird & Fortune did a good examination program based on Iraq last night...

Glad someone else saw this. Quite revealing (and I thought I had a fair idea what was going on)

HOWEVER, daydreamer, I have to correct you. Winston Chuchill did NOT authorise gassing of the Kurds. He wanted to, but we hadn't developed any bombs that could deliver it...

[daydreamer]

Point taken.

I know that it didn't happen (GCSE History project was on the middle east, but that was 15 years ago ), but wasn't sure about the actual circumstances surrounding the Greatest Ever Britan, so educated (only a little as I obviously wasn't listening) by this mostly reliable source .

Think that the program made a very good point however in how far our press appears to be toeing the line. I think that it is fantastic that the editors support the government of the land, but as we are a developed society, I think that we the people should be a little better informed by our leaders!

[clanger]

When I was a student lad, Jack Straw was NUS President - we used to call him commie b*stard due to his extreme left wing views - how worms turn, now more right wing than Ryan Giggs! - couldn't trust him then, wouldn't trust him now... Go back to Hampstead Jack, or Jackoff..

[sadoksevoli]

The problem is my fellow PHers, is that there will be NO PHing, no evenings burning rubber in the local Tesco car park, no pretending to be Ayrton Senna on the M25 if the good old hypocritical and morally bankrupt West doesn't ensure that the flow of that smelly black stuff called crude oil keeps flowing from the land of the t0welheads (oops...naughty boy). Yes Mr Straw is an utter hypocrite and is inept to boot, but surely we don't want to threaten our way of life by allowing any possibility the middle east going up in flames?
My only worry is that our troops will be used for a game of bluff that could turn very nasty and Messrs Bliar and Brown have ensured that our forces best bet is to throw their useless rifles (aka conventional warfare), melting boots (aka chemical warfare) and rotten ration packs (aka biological warfare) at the enemy.