Question Time Tonight! 16/01/02
Question Time Tonight! 16/01/02
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ABBTVR

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69,336 posts

285 months

Thursday 16th January 2003
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HI All,
DON'T MISS IT!
Our two friends Jeremy Clarkson and ..... KEN LIVINSTONE !! ON THE SAME PROGRAM
Can't wait.
Big Al.

minimax

11,985 posts

283 months

Thursday 16th January 2003
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gonna tape it - sounds like a stormer! Anyone remember JC's encounter with Jonathan Porritt on his talkshow a year or two ago?

pwig

12,003 posts

297 months

Thursday 16th January 2003
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Patricia Hewett and Red Ken made to look silly..

..and Clarkson and 'Howard Wilkinson' made to look good!

Bliss

Eric Mc

125,338 posts

292 months

Friday 17th January 2003
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I can never take what Maichael Howard says about immigration seriously given that his dad was an asylum seeker from Roumania. "Howard" is not the real family name. For that matter, Michael Portillo's dad was also a political refugee - from Franco's Spain in his case.

loserkid

1,676 posts

291 months

Friday 17th January 2003
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I thought that apart from the occasional funny comment any of us could have presented a better arguement regarding congetion charging.

"What about the traffic lights"

Pity really.

sjc

16,202 posts

297 months

Friday 17th January 2003
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Clarkson wasted a great chance. Every time he had Livingstone or Hewitt? on the back foot he belittled his own argument with a childish comment; i'e. "buses are for old people" and " they wear shoes made out of spinach." He really could have ripped it but up big time.

>> Edited by sjc on Friday 17th January 20:36

swilly

9,699 posts

301 months

Friday 17th January 2003
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Hmmmm Patricia Hewett, could any one else confirm seeing her jelly-like-consistency backbone shuffling its way out of the studio. What a pompous-i'm so superior-and know more than you little person- twat.

Having seen Livingstone, you've got to give the man some credit. In this day and age of politicians refusing to take responsibility and stand up and be counted, at least he is upfront in saying "this scheme is not wanted but something must be done" he's putting his balls on the line which is very rare nowadays. The scheme is still crap and will fail but hey.

superlightr

12,920 posts

290 months

Friday 17th January 2003
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wasted chance. JC was not clear and concise and sadly did not put up much of a fight.

anonymous-user

81 months

Friday 17th January 2003
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Clarkson tried too hard to be funny and frankly he wasn't really. Red Ken is the consumate panellist for this type of programme and far too wily for someone like JC.

Did you see the Ian Hislop V Mary Archer fight on QT last year? Now that was worth buying a ticket for.



marki

15,763 posts

297 months

Friday 17th January 2003
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paul-b said: Clarkson tried too hard to be funny and frankly he wasn't really. Red Ken is the consumate panellist for this type of programme and far too wily for someone like JC.






Sadly it seems JC now belives his own hype and as you say trys too hard to be funny , thats why TG is a waste of time IMO , he used to be funny in a more natural way now he forces it and it is not working .

JMGS4

8,905 posts

297 months

Friday 17th January 2003
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superlightr said: wasted chance. JC was not clear and concise and sadly did not put up much of a fight.


Agreed wasted opportunity Jeremy! David Dimbelby however avoided often, very slyly, giving Jeremy the chance to speak!!! but how about the lily livered gawping supercilious socialist scumbagess who didn't/coundn't even answer the very pertinent questions? Tyxpical Labour useless TW@T! She's not worried about Congestion Charges, she's using one of OUR cars to get to work, she doesn't sit with the smellies on a bus/tube!!!
And Howard? almost as bad, all he was doing was saying was "we did it better" and "you can't do it".
And as for that red scumbag Livingstone... he said he'd have liked to put the CC to £20, funny that nobody gave aired the reasoning why he didn't! He was scared that the first Londoner who saw him would have lynched him for it!!!!!
Good Point from Jeremy though, put the charge up to £50 to really make it work!! Nobody noticed the tongue in cheek, even BBC News stated before the programme that JC is FOR a £50 charge!!!! of course totally out of context!!!!
Another point... anyone notice that the BBC is being OVER PC? virtually all questions were posed by non-Brits (sorry non-white minorities!)
TIME FOR A REVOLUTION CHAPS!!!!!!

hut49

3,544 posts

289 months

Friday 17th January 2003
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Clarkson acted like the overgrown schoolboy that he undoubtedly is. But who expected him to be anything else? His trivialising and say-it-for-effect style is OK fronting a motoring prog (in reasonably small doses) but he looked like a caricature of himself on QT. Uncomfortable in converstation and you could sense he was always looking for opportunities to interject a clarksonism.

I did enjoy seeing him pick on Pat Hewitt's inconsistency re her opinion (as Trade Secretary in Balir Government) that our cricket team should not go to Zimbabwe since Mugabe runs a perfectly horrible regime while she is perfectly happy to see BA fly to Harare 3 times a week.

spnracing

1,558 posts

298 months

Friday 17th January 2003
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Clarkson came across as a buffoon.

The panel clearly consisted of three educated intellectuals with well thought out views and the car freak sat at the end.

His views on asylum seekers and terrorism were particular frightening.

flasher

9,310 posts

311 months

Friday 17th January 2003
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I agree with most of the others here. (now there's a thing!) I thought JC could have fared much better. However Michael Howerd made the best point of the evening when he said the he was disgusted that every time the subject of Asylum came up for debate Labour played the race card. This always annoys me intensley. I have noticed that they do the same thing when the NHS is debated. We always get "but the Doctors and Nurses do a fantastic job"...

Yes, we know that. But the system doesn't work, the waiting lists are huge and the Hospital's are poorly run.

NoisyGriff

579 posts

295 months

Friday 17th January 2003
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I can't stand that Hewitt woman.

It got me wondering: If last night's episode of Question Time had been The Weakest Link instead, how long would Hewitt have lasted?

Patronising, sanctimonious Blairite kiss-ass.

Eric Mc

125,338 posts

292 months

Friday 17th January 2003
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The funniest comment was from Hewitt when she tried to justify BA continuing to fly to Zimbabwe on the basis that it would allow those who wanted to leave the country an opportunity to do so. Have Air Zimbabwe ceased flying to London then?
The loudest "white" contributor from the audience was also a non-Brit (he sounded South African or possibly Rhodesian). He admitted that he came to England as an asylum seeker twenty five years ago.
I did think JC was a bit subdued. Mayne it's because he had to wear a tie.

M@H

11,298 posts

299 months

Friday 17th January 2003
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Hmmm... I too felt JC was a bit of a let down, but he was so obviously out of his element... had the chairs been made by Recaro or Sparco he probably would have had more bite...

Matt.

MikeyT

18,220 posts

298 months

Friday 17th January 2003
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Patronising, sanctimonious Blairite kiss-ass.


That just about summed her up – she was worse than useless!

Michael Howard was, er, Michael Howard

Clarkson was borish and arrogant - the kind of bloke who if he was in a pub shouting to get heard would get punched.

Like him or loath him, Red Ken has skin as thick as a Chim's GRP and you can't rattle people with his experience.

elanturbo

565 posts

289 months

Friday 17th January 2003
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Did anyone see Weird Nature last night?
There were some prehistoric fish from the sea off Norway that ooze slime to evade capture.
I though the programme had been repeated not one hour later when I saw Patricia Hewitt on Question Time.

Gross!

victormeldrew

8,293 posts

304 months

Friday 17th January 2003
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Sadly JC didn't get much of a chance. Was it me, or did most of the questions get put to the other three panelists then put out to the floor for comment. JC was ignored. When he did start to have a go the "debate" was moved on to another topic.

Question, pontification from the panelists atop their particular soapbox, then inane comments from the audience. Not really a debating forum, and thats were JC would have excelled.