Cowboy builder with an attitued
Cowboy builder with an attitued
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mojorider

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235 posts

287 months

Monday 3rd February 2003
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The house next door has been bought by a load of cowboys. The house is sinking into the ground and they are doing a bodge job with a view to sell it on for a quick profit to an unsusupecting family.

They insist on running heavy equipment just outside my bedroom window early on Sat. mornings and the exhaust from the equipment is gassing me. The site is a mess with equipment all over and no fencing in place, real danger.

I asked them to lay off from early morning work on weekend, there response was piss off our land or we will call the police.

Oh he drives a dodgy M3 with max power body kit and wheels (I drive a BMW so not slagging the make).

g4ry13

21,641 posts

283 months

Monday 3rd February 2003
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Phone the council and report them because it's illegal to work on the weekends especially at that hour.

However one down-side is that the council will knock on your door afterwards and the cowboys will see and be pretty pissed off with you.

minimax

11,985 posts

284 months

Monday 3rd February 2003
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hmmm revenge is best taken with a cold heart - so let me suggest something.....

what about inform the town planners of your concerns - they may be breaking some rules, most builders are in the FMB so call them too, try advertising your street & town on here or free ad papers near when they try to sell it advising of your concerns re jerrybuiltness (hmmm) also I don't know if you know any large rent-a-thug friends?...............

just some thoughts, depends on how p1ssed off you are - I'll just go and take my medication byeeeeeeeeeeeee!

>> Edited by minimax on Monday 3rd February 12:04

mojorider

Original Poster:

235 posts

287 months

Monday 3rd February 2003
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He is already pissed off with me. Have phoned environmental health, health and safety and building regs.

The house is so badly damaged, the survey went down 60 feet and could not find solid ground. I know these guys will just patch it up and stuff someone with a real nightmare of a problem.

Agent006

12,058 posts

292 months

Monday 3rd February 2003
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Take plenty of pictures, and then email them to al the estate agents in town, so when they come to try and sell the thing they'll have no chance.

More short term, you could call the police, saying they're causing a public nuisance, and using threatning behaviour.

minimax

11,985 posts

284 months

Monday 3rd February 2003
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Agent, wicked idea! why didn't I think of that!


-swallowsdownlastofpills-

ahhh that's why.......

mojorider

Original Poster:

235 posts

287 months

Monday 3rd February 2003
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I am going to put a sign on my house telling of the horrors when they go to sell, this should realy piss him off. Will also phone the estate agents who are selling the property.

Called the police, as usual they wont do anything. Maybe I should say they are parked on a doubble yellow, that should get a massive response.

robp

5,815 posts

292 months

Monday 3rd February 2003
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mojorider said: I am going to put a sign on my house telling of the horrors when they go to sell, this should realy piss him off. Will also phone the estate agents who are selling the property.

Called the police, as usual they wont do anything. Maybe I should say they are parked on a doubble yellow, that should get a massive response.


Or tell the cops the builder drove up the road at 31MPH this morning, they will be out in force by tomoz morning!

deltaf

1,384 posts

285 months

Monday 3rd February 2003
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Send all your pics to watchdog.
Get them on Tv, a little advertising will be nice for them , if ya know what i mean!
Failing that take a big stick round and bray the hell outa them. I would!

minimax

11,985 posts

284 months

Monday 3rd February 2003
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hohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohoho mr p you beat me to it!

Marcos maniac

3,148 posts

289 months

Monday 3rd February 2003
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building regs should get involved, you could be a complete pain in the Arse and phone them regularly i.e every time they start to dig around the footing etc.

from my knowledge of building regulations etc, they will probably try to under-pin the footings which means they dig along a metre length of the footings and re-fill with steel re-inforcement and concrete, then leave a metre and then dig a metre etc. The local building inspector should be involved and be making regular vists to inspect the 'hole' to check that it is deep enough, if steel re-inforcement is required thay check that the they are correctly spaced and tied, this has to be checked prior to any concrete 'pour'




They insist on running heavy equipment just outside my bedroom window early on Sat. mornings and the exhaust from the equipment is gassing me. The site is a mess with equipment all over and no fencing in place, real danger.



no fencing! they have a legal responsibility to ensure that any excavations etc are securely barriered off, thay are liable if someone wanders across the land and falls down a hole etc. trespass doesnt come into it!

>> Edited by Marcos maniac on Monday 3rd February 12:23

mojorider

Original Poster:

235 posts

287 months

Monday 3rd February 2003
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The last owner had a fight for 2yrs. (house is under 10yrs old), they eventally paid the market price for his house.

The survey could not find solid ground with the deepest drilling equipment they had. How can they fix such a property correctly?

Marcos maniac

3,148 posts

289 months

Monday 3rd February 2003
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mojorider said: The last owner had a fight for 2yrs. (house is under 10yrs old), they eventally paid the market price for his house.

The survey could not find solid ground with the deepest drilling equipment they had. How can they fix such a property correctly?


under-pinning and/or piling

Richard92c2

464 posts

291 months

Monday 3rd February 2003
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Sorry to hear about your "neighbours from hell".

However

I suppose the obvious question I can think of is, If the house right next door to yours is sinking into the mud, How safe is yours ??

mojorider

Original Poster:

235 posts

287 months

Monday 3rd February 2003
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Mine seems ok, next doors problem came up 2yrs ago and nothing on mine yet. It seems to be some localised sink hole under his house.

icamm

2,153 posts

288 months

Monday 3rd February 2003
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Marcos maniac said:

mojorider said: The last owner had a fight for 2yrs. (house is under 10yrs old), they eventally paid the market price for his house.

The survey could not find solid ground with the deepest drilling equipment they had. How can they fix such a property correctly?


under-pinning and/or piling


Yep. My parents have this under their house (built on an old peat bog). They have 60 foot piles down under the house. Also to no solid ground. However, they knew this when they bought it and have even had an extension built with the same piling done. Mind you there house in on an estate where all the houses have the same problem.

Psychobert

6,318 posts

284 months

Monday 3rd February 2003
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NHBC might be worth a call, though I suspect that cowboys would not be listed with them.

You'd be a responsible citizen for reporting your concerns about the place in the state its in, what with all those kids playing around machinery

Just make sure you don't accidentally end up with a brick through your window.

mojorider

Original Poster:

235 posts

287 months

Monday 3rd February 2003
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If there is a brick through the window some sand may blow into the petrol tank of their very large generator.

I have got Health and Safety going to the site for an inspection. Indication are they will have to make some changes that should cost them some money.

icamm

2,153 posts

288 months

Monday 3rd February 2003
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Also talk to the environmental health people about it. They can cover all sorts of areas including the noise.

bif

149 posts

290 months

Monday 3rd February 2003
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Dead right, enviromenal health department have a duty with regard to noise pollution, and second option, when they decided to dig up the manhole in our street at 6:30am one Sunday morning, one of my neighbours called the local MP, who to be fair zapped into action and chased the guys until they stopped working, got the normal apology but awake by then !