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But i'm sure we'd all be like that if we had to live like him.
I feel sorry for him, it wasn't his choice to get into 'showbiz', i'm sure lots of slighly loopy people do the same things he does, it just doesn't get reported.
Edited to add: Ignoring the personal bit for a moment, his music is some of the best ever, peerless.
>> Edited by rich-uk on Monday 3rd February 22:50
PS, he is in debt isnt he?
Dont think so the way he was spending in his favorite shop.
Wacko, no not really just a bit scared from his yoof,probably from not having a childhood.
A great Talent and if it wasnt for people like him music would stand still.
Not sure a totally believe the Skin disease thing but who really cares.
Does so much for charitys and for Kids(even with his jaded past)
BB
Just been watching this - as many have I'm sure. I too feel sorry for the man, as he hasn't had the easiest life from the sounds of things.
My flatmates and I have just been debating the whole children sleeping with him thing. They are taking the line that society has made this very taboo and it is probably just innocent - I cannot be convinced by this.
If I were a father I would 100% not let my kids sleep with a man who has obvious psychological issues with childhood, or indeed with any unknown man - especially (given recent events) a celebrity!
My flatmates and I have just been debating the whole children sleeping with him thing. They are taking the line that society has made this very taboo and it is probably just innocent - I cannot be convinced by this.
If I were a father I would 100% not let my kids sleep with a man who has obvious psychological issues with childhood, or indeed with any unknown man - especially (given recent events) a celebrity!
Sleeping with kids!! This is not normal behaviour, and surely can never be condoned!!
just because he's famous and lives behind locked gates does not give the man licence to go beyond the bounds of what is considered normal.
I would like to bet that not one PH'er would let their child spend a night there? Post if you would, but this man obviously has issues. In fact his issues have issues!!
And that face has only had two operations? I can think of other ways it might have been re-arranged by fathers out there.
just because he's famous and lives behind locked gates does not give the man licence to go beyond the bounds of what is considered normal.
I would like to bet that not one PH'er would let their child spend a night there? Post if you would, but this man obviously has issues. In fact his issues have issues!!
And that face has only had two operations? I can think of other ways it might have been re-arranged by fathers out there.
I have read many times over the years that Jacko is a man living the life of a child, and this view was reinforced last night.
I think although he lied many times, including his relationship with the mother of his youngest child and the highly improbable insistence of only having had plastic surgery on his nose, he did speak openly about other aspects of his bizarre life.
I'm not sure that he has bad (sexual)intentions toward the children that he spends his time with, but it is clearly worrying that he can confess to sharing a bed with minors. This man (and I know I have to be careful about what I say here) has been the subject of unproven sexual assault allegations against a minor, and must therefore be subject to some degree of supervision.
In summary, although I feel very sorry for Jackson who clearly has had an unusual and unhappy childhood, if he is little more than a child himself he should not be responsible for his or anyone elses children.
As a side issue if the personal spending habits demonstrated in this interview is typical behaviour, he might not be in a position of such power for too much longer.
I think although he lied many times, including his relationship with the mother of his youngest child and the highly improbable insistence of only having had plastic surgery on his nose, he did speak openly about other aspects of his bizarre life.
I'm not sure that he has bad (sexual)intentions toward the children that he spends his time with, but it is clearly worrying that he can confess to sharing a bed with minors. This man (and I know I have to be careful about what I say here) has been the subject of unproven sexual assault allegations against a minor, and must therefore be subject to some degree of supervision.
In summary, although I feel very sorry for Jackson who clearly has had an unusual and unhappy childhood, if he is little more than a child himself he should not be responsible for his or anyone elses children.
As a side issue if the personal spending habits demonstrated in this interview is typical behaviour, he might not be in a position of such power for too much longer.
Having watched the programme and the final interview it was obvious MJ was uncomfortable and was lying about several issues, namley his face the the identity of Prince Micheal Junior 2nd.
He claimed in the first part of the programme to have had a relationship with his youngest childs mother but in the interview at the end he claimed she was a surrogate mother and they had never met....hmmm...sounds fishy...
I do feel sorry for him, he definitely needs a shrink NOT an interview.....
He claimed in the first part of the programme to have had a relationship with his youngest childs mother but in the interview at the end he claimed she was a surrogate mother and they had never met....hmmm...sounds fishy...
I do feel sorry for him, he definitely needs a shrink NOT an interview.....
Didn't anyone find it strange that one of the kids was:
a) very white - even with his "whitening" disease, his kids would still be non-white
b) blonde - I thought the blonde hair gene was repressive and so something like a black hair gene would have presidence
Otherwise, I thought it was good TV. Anyone hear about Phil Spector this morning - arrested for murder. Which one grabbed all the headlines (not that I'm condoning his behaviour towards kids or owt!)?
a) very white - even with his "whitening" disease, his kids would still be non-white
b) blonde - I thought the blonde hair gene was repressive and so something like a black hair gene would have presidence
Otherwise, I thought it was good TV. Anyone hear about Phil Spector this morning - arrested for murder. Which one grabbed all the headlines (not that I'm condoning his behaviour towards kids or owt!)?
I heard somewhere that he had borrowed a stack of cash from his record lable based on future sales, which aren't going to plan.
Did you notice the part where he was telling the kids that he was planning a water park. He then said you can come in your swimming costumes next time.
Also when one of the German fans jumped into his van screaming give me a hug he said I'll do more than that!
Nik
Did you notice the part where he was telling the kids that he was planning a water park. He then said you can come in your swimming costumes next time.
Also when one of the German fans jumped into his van screaming give me a hug he said I'll do more than that!
Nik
fatbutt said: Didn't anyone find it strange that one of the kids was:
a) very white - even with his "whitening" disease, his kids would still be non-white
b) blonde - I thought the blonde hair gene was repressive and so something like a black hair gene would have presidence
Otherwise, I thought it was good TV. Anyone hear about Phil Spector this morning - arrested for murder. Which one grabbed all the headlines (not that I'm condoning his behaviour towards kids or owt!)?
Actually I thought all 'his' kids were astonishingly white. For some reason the child with the very blond hair appeared to have gingery brown roots. Poor kid.
You have to feel a little sorry for him. The shopping trip in Las Vegas when very quickly 100s of people were following him just shows how little chance he has of living anything even approaching a normal life. I'm sure if I had anything like his wealth my spending habits would result in me being considered a tad eccentric.
Fruitcake (IMHO).
Yea, he might have had a tough childhood,..but the other Jackson siblings deny their father hitting them.
Anyway, most of us over 30 or 35 got a clout ever now and then. Times have changed.
And he wants a boy and girl from every continent in the world,... to go with his giraffes and monkeys no doubt.
Some collection!
The way he was feeding 'Blanket (ffs?)' quite upset me, as did the way he pulled away from Paris to sign an autograph. Martin Bashiir was altogether much more aware of the dangers facing the children than Jacko.
I agree with those who said he appeared to be lying from time to time, which makes me wonder what the 'reality' actually is.
I would feel more sympathy for him if he was a little more honest with himself and others.
Yea, he might have had a tough childhood,..but the other Jackson siblings deny their father hitting them.
Anyway, most of us over 30 or 35 got a clout ever now and then. Times have changed.
And he wants a boy and girl from every continent in the world,... to go with his giraffes and monkeys no doubt.
Some collection!
The way he was feeding 'Blanket (ffs?)' quite upset me, as did the way he pulled away from Paris to sign an autograph. Martin Bashiir was altogether much more aware of the dangers facing the children than Jacko.
I agree with those who said he appeared to be lying from time to time, which makes me wonder what the 'reality' actually is.
I would feel more sympathy for him if he was a little more honest with himself and others.
Put a child in an adult's body and you get Michael Jackson (though I doubt he is trying to do the reverse!). He neds guidance from adults as to how to behave, because he is a child and not a very bright one at that.
The lad, Gavin, worries me. I suspect there is an attempt to ingratiate him into Jackson's world, with a view to making a cynical claim of sexual abuse at a later date. He needs constant vigilance to protect him from that, and from his own naivety. He also needs a full time nanny for his children, and he needs to get off the "Michael Jackson - superstar" trip, if he wants to become a proper parent (cf. Madonna)
The lad, Gavin, worries me. I suspect there is an attempt to ingratiate him into Jackson's world, with a view to making a cynical claim of sexual abuse at a later date. He needs constant vigilance to protect him from that, and from his own naivety. He also needs a full time nanny for his children, and he needs to get off the "Michael Jackson - superstar" trip, if he wants to become a proper parent (cf. Madonna)
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