Charging per mile considered by Bliar.
Charging per mile considered by Bliar.
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deltaf

Original Poster:

1,384 posts

285 months

Sunday 23rd February 2003
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So the "success" of the congestion charge has led to another stealth tax being introduced on motorists.
This time its the satellite tracking system that will lead to drivers being charged as much as £1.30 per mile.
Ministers are to start a trial of the system shortly.

Its the end of the world as we know it.
Better get off ya butts and fight, or go down cryin.


>>> Edited by deltaf on Sunday 23 February 11:27

P*Ting

5,618 posts

286 months

Sunday 23rd February 2003
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Oh that's going to work...

At least in London there's a badly overcrowdeed, anchient, dilapidated public transport system. What do the folk of rural places have as an alternative?

This'd kill me financially. I've driven about 35K in 2 years, which isn't far above average, but I'm a student. Quite a lot of that milage was on company business and making 40p per mile on expenses was quite a nice earner for me even after the cost of actually running the car.

Paying £1:30? I just couldn't do it. But then that's the whole idea. Transport is becomming something for the rich and privalledged these days. What happened to the right of free movement? Unless I'm much mistaken the government are trying to imprison us all in our homes.

Is there a list of contact details for MPs anywhere? If not how do I set about tracking mine down?

Is there a 'pushed too far' smiley?

apache

39,731 posts

312 months

Sunday 23rd February 2003
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if, this is true I will do time for it

MoJocvh

16,837 posts

290 months

Sunday 23rd February 2003
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apache said: if, this is true I will do time for it


Yep. IF it comes in so will I.

Agent006

12,058 posts

292 months

Sunday 23rd February 2003
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I assume we'll have to pay for the gadgetry to be installed in our cars too. There's no hope of Labour being voted out next time round, now portillo's trying his very best to destroy the conservative party.

danny hoffman

1,617 posts

290 months

Sunday 23rd February 2003
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This isn't new - we get charged per mile everytime we fill up.

deltaf

Original Poster:

1,384 posts

285 months

Sunday 23rd February 2003
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It is new.
Youll get charged per mile, before you fill up and as well as filling up.
Then theyll be prosecuting for speeding offences as theyll be tracking you everywhere you go.
Then theyll introduce an extra charge for going a certain distance.
Totalitarian enough for you?

eric mc

125,343 posts

293 months

Sunday 23rd February 2003
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IDS is doing a good job of destroying Conservative electability single handed. Will he go down as the Michael Foot of the Conservatives?

TrevorW

2,875 posts

310 months

Sunday 23rd February 2003
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Is there a list of contact details for MPs anywhere? If not how do I set about tracking mine down?


Yes its on www.upmystreet.co.uk just stick your post code in a voila! all the information you need.

Superflid

2,254 posts

293 months

Sunday 23rd February 2003
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P*Ting

5,618 posts

286 months

Sunday 23rd February 2003
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So noted - thanks guys.

I just wish I made a case like the Carzees and Madcops of this world...

Now I'm going to have to find a link to the details of this hairbrained scheme so I'm not arguing in the dark.

apache

39,731 posts

312 months

Sunday 23rd February 2003
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there was a quick reference to this on tonights Car Junkies, town charging will be variable and country/rural roads will be free, they intend to do away with road tax and tax on fuel will be dropped to 'supposedly' impinge on the pocket as little as possible. The guy (don't know who he was) said that it was a win win system but the publics open mistrust of whichever party in power not to dip their hands into their pockets made it unlikely to happen. In other words political suicide, also there was a promise that it would not be introduced in less than 7 years, road building projects are going ahead meantime.

>> Edited by apache on Sunday 23 February 21:49

nubbin

6,809 posts

306 months

Sunday 23rd February 2003
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I have a letter from the Dept. of Transporrt, denying that this is feasible within the next 10 years, and on car junkies, it was mentioned that the Govt. has agreed not to consider it for at least the next 7 years.

For God's sake, vote these fools out of office next time! Vote for anyone, but not the Blairite junta!!

AlanN

246 posts

284 months

Monday 24th February 2003
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if, this is true I will do time for it


Yep, me too.

Blair?

Byff

4,427 posts

289 months

Monday 24th February 2003
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If you think of it, it's a good system if you trust the politicians.

The people who use there cars at peak times and in crowded places pay the most and people like me that drive at unsocial hours in empty towns will benefit - but only if fuel and road tax are abolished.

No tax on fuel and no road tax and i'd be happy to pay per mile on a sliding scale depending upon rural/city roads

armynick

631 posts

289 months

Monday 24th February 2003
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I don't believe this would be feasable. Fitting every car, bike and truck? Nah, plus I'm not having anyone putting a tracking system on any of my vehicles. I'm also going to not pay extra fees either in the form of tolls on the ordinary roads or pay per milage.

I'll go to prison first! Come and get me if you dare!

What's next? Tax on air and water? **** you Labour!

ian d

986 posts

283 months

Monday 24th February 2003
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freedom of the individual i say, remember the politicians are PAID by us to represent us and our views not us to serve them, which blair seems to be unaware of.

i am currently working in denmark where everything is taxed and regulated to death (my opinion). income tax starts at 50%, you buy a car and they tax you anywhere upwards of 100% after the authorities value the car, this explains why there are no sports cars( no lotus or tvrs anywhere) or luxury saloons (rolls, bentley etc). and to warn us all the public services seem no better than ours(in uk).

I can see uk going the same way with every hair brained scheme/stealthtax that condesending B###### Blair and friends think of.

so my point if you have one as an mp, next election vote for the party that came second in your area last time (which i know is personally painful to do!) and get this lot of two faced robbing ######## out. or we are going to be taking bikes and buses everywhere (the poor danes pay 25% vat on cycles)

corozin

2,680 posts

299 months

Monday 24th February 2003
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C'mon guys, does anyone really think this is going to happen?

John

granville

18,764 posts

289 months

Monday 24th February 2003
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Fear not - if Bliar tries this he will be either assassinated, deselected or lose the next election.

One just has to hope the alternative politicos aren't quite so Orwellian in their control freakery.

Failing that, open revolt would be utterly desirous.

Delta - you'd be my Che Guevara!

JMGS4

8,908 posts

298 months

Monday 24th February 2003
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apache said: there was a quick reference to this on tonights Car Junkies, town charging will be variable and country/rural roads will be free, they intend to do away with road tax and tax on fuel will be dropped to 'supposedly' impinge on the pocket as little as possible. The guy (don't know who he was) said that it was a win win system but the publics open mistrust of whichever party in power not to dip their hands into their pockets made it unlikely to happen. In other words political suicide, also there was a promise that it would not be introduced in less than 7 years, road building projects are going ahead meantime.

>> Edited by apache on Sunday 23 February 21:49



You don't actually believe that these labour scum would DROP fuel charges/road taxes do you???? Cloud Cuckoo Land......... They did say however that it would be after 2007 that they introduce it? High hopes that they're still going to be a valid governmental force then????
Funny how Begg in that programme was effectively sanctifying road protestors!!! I've no probs with a protest but when it gets illegal (bomb threats, burying themselves, chaining to trees etc), bring back the birch!!!!!