Zero tolerance = Zero brain!
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In the USA, but coming to a School near you soon.....
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WHERE DID YOU GET THAT?
A student told a teacher that Kevin Long had a knife at Struthers (Ohio) Elementary School. Sure enough, the first-grader had a small plastic knife in his book bag that he got from the school cafeteria. He had kept it so he could show his mother he had learned how to butter bread. The school's zero tolerance policy says a knife is a weapon, so Principal Betty Washington suspended the 6-year-old boy for 10 days while a 180-day expulsion is considered. (Youngstown Vindicator) ...And until the problem is resolved, the cafeteria menu will remain the same: soup.
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Words fail me.........
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WHERE DID YOU GET THAT?
A student told a teacher that Kevin Long had a knife at Struthers (Ohio) Elementary School. Sure enough, the first-grader had a small plastic knife in his book bag that he got from the school cafeteria. He had kept it so he could show his mother he had learned how to butter bread. The school's zero tolerance policy says a knife is a weapon, so Principal Betty Washington suspended the 6-year-old boy for 10 days while a 180-day expulsion is considered. (Youngstown Vindicator) ...And until the problem is resolved, the cafeteria menu will remain the same: soup.
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Words fail me.........
Nothing to worry about here folks..
Since he is 6 years old he won't be charged as an adult, so that eliminates hard jail time or the death sentence
He will though be charged with "carriage of lethal weapon" and "intent to use" as he planned to take it home.
With a little bit of luck he will be removed from his home and placed within a facility that will be able to treat him, hence helping him return to society.
His parents on the other hand, should be punished to the full extent of the law, being responsible for bringing up a child so dangerous to his fellow beings and surroundings.
..phew I feel safer already
(god bless amerika)
Since he is 6 years old he won't be charged as an adult, so that eliminates hard jail time or the death sentence
He will though be charged with "carriage of lethal weapon" and "intent to use" as he planned to take it home.
With a little bit of luck he will be removed from his home and placed within a facility that will be able to treat him, hence helping him return to society.
His parents on the other hand, should be punished to the full extent of the law, being responsible for bringing up a child so dangerous to his fellow beings and surroundings.
..phew I feel safer already
(god bless amerika)
This nonsense happens in the UK as well. Look at the problems I had.
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Sorry, guys, but this is definitely not "Only in America" -
When my son was 3 years old, he was stopped in airport security at Genoa airport, because he had a plastic knife from a spy set we bought him on holiday. This "knife" was soft plastic, and could be bent all ways, even doubled in half. But two gun-toting Spanish w*nkers took it off him, and refused to join in the general humour over this foiled terrorist attack.
Last year, we went to Portugal, via Birmingham airport. My terrorist son, now aged 10, was stopped and threatened with summary removal from the airport. Why?
Because he was carrying a water pistol, in the shape of a "ray gun", through the security check. A stern faced lesbian bitch, (who took it off him and threw it into a bin, 3' deep with nail scissors and tweezers), at one point said we could not now go on holiday! Guilty until proven innocent!! He's 10, FFS! I went ballistic at this point, and I think in the end, she was glad to get me out of the country. Ahem....
When my son was 3 years old, he was stopped in airport security at Genoa airport, because he had a plastic knife from a spy set we bought him on holiday. This "knife" was soft plastic, and could be bent all ways, even doubled in half. But two gun-toting Spanish w*nkers took it off him, and refused to join in the general humour over this foiled terrorist attack.
Last year, we went to Portugal, via Birmingham airport. My terrorist son, now aged 10, was stopped and threatened with summary removal from the airport. Why?
Because he was carrying a water pistol, in the shape of a "ray gun", through the security check. A stern faced lesbian bitch, (who took it off him and threw it into a bin, 3' deep with nail scissors and tweezers), at one point said we could not now go on holiday! Guilty until proven innocent!! He's 10, FFS! I went ballistic at this point, and I think in the end, she was glad to get me out of the country. Ahem....
The positively worn-out phrase 'political correctness gone mad' springs instantly to mind.
A significant proportion of both the UK and the USA's government bodies needs to get a grip and start using common sense on a routine basis. A sweeping statement, I know, but there are far too many of these stupid occurences.
A significant proportion of both the UK and the USA's government bodies needs to get a grip and start using common sense on a routine basis. A sweeping statement, I know, but there are far too many of these stupid occurences.
nubbin said: Sorry, guys, but this is definitely not "Only in America" -
When my son was 3 years old, he was stopped in airport security at Genoa airport, because he had a plastic knife from a spy set we bought him on holiday. This "knife" was soft plastic, and could be bent all ways, even doubled in half. But two gun-toting Spanish w*nkers took it off him, and refused to join in the general humour over this foiled terrorist attack.
Last year, we went to Portugal, via Birmingham airport. My terrorist son, now aged 10, was stopped and threatened with summary removal from the airport. Why?
Because he was carrying a water pistol, in the shape of a "ray gun", through the security check. A stern faced lesbian bitch, (who took it off him and threw it into a bin, 3' deep with nail scissors and tweezers), at one point said we could not now go on holiday! Guilty until proven innocent!! He's 10, FFS! I went ballistic at this point, and I think in the end, she was glad to get me out of the country. Ahem....
Sorry, I may be missing your point but why would anyone, in the tense environment we have to endure in airports, feel it appropriate to take a water-pistol-toting child into a security area? What exactly is the point you want the child to make on your behalf? Wouldn't you rather that the staff there are undistracted and focusing on our security?
Hutch
Hutch, just a guess here - not got kids yourself have you?
Short of doing a strip-search (resulting in having your kids taken into care for their own protection) every 2 hours, kids will make sure that they always have something in their posession wich will drop you in deep doo-doo at some point.
Or maybe Nubbin just thought it might be a funny jape.
Short of doing a strip-search (resulting in having your kids taken into care for their own protection) every 2 hours, kids will make sure that they always have something in their posession wich will drop you in deep doo-doo at some point.
Or maybe Nubbin just thought it might be a funny jape.
Apologies to any Americans on here, but having recently seen Micheal Moore's film "Bowling for Columbine" I don't think anything about America's attitude to weapons, or the frequently hysterical reaction of media, policians and authorities would surprise me.
See it if you can...
John
p.s. Some info at www.bowlingforcolumbine.com
See it if you can...
John
p.s. Some info at www.bowlingforcolumbine.com
Great film. Anywhere that they sell automatics in K-mart has a pretty messed up attitude IMHO. My dad always had guns in the house, but I hate them. I wish Jon didn't keep his shotguns in the house, but the licence requires it
Quick fact from the US National Center for Health Statistics: Likelihood of using a handgun in the house to confront an intruder <1 in 2,500,000, number of children killed by firearms in the home = 9 per day (87,000 1979-1999)
[crystal ball] this thread will now proceed to wander down a cul-de-sac about guns and crime, I will get flamed, someone will call someone else a Nazi[/crystal ball]
Quick fact from the US National Center for Health Statistics: Likelihood of using a handgun in the house to confront an intruder <1 in 2,500,000, number of children killed by firearms in the home = 9 per day (87,000 1979-1999)
[crystal ball] this thread will now proceed to wander down a cul-de-sac about guns and crime, I will get flamed, someone will call someone else a Nazi[/crystal ball]
Guy next to me at the airport had a gun confiscated. I think it was an M16. It was part of the outfit that he had bough for his son's Action Man/G I Joe. It was about two inches long. The security people gave him a really hard time. The rest of us stood in amazement at the stupidity of it all. And no, they didn't relent...
hut49 said:
nubbin said:
Sorry, I may be missing your point but why would anyone, in the tense environment we have to endure in airports, feel it appropriate to take a water-pistol-toting child into a security area? What exactly is the point you want the child to make on your behalf? Wouldn't you rather that the staff there are undistracted and focusing on our security?
Hutch
Yes, you are obviously missing the point. The whole point of this thread is the "zero brain" aspect of zero tolerance. Now if you think a child carrying a water pistol, in the usual garish colours such devices come in, represents a "clear and present danger" to the security of an aircraft, could you explain precisely HOW it is a threat? Do you think, if anyone had paused for a moment, and actually looked at the toy, it would be clearly seen as exactly that.
Obviously, zero tolerance fits comfotably with your mentality. It doesn't with mine. We are not automatons, and servants of the state, we are human beings. Sorry you missed the point.
Distraction? What distraction? It's their job! Do you think a terrorist might try to sneak past whilst a little boy stands there looking confused and frightened? Really top notch security that would be! I reckon consistency from all airports might be a more useful measure to counteract international security threats, rather than confiscating water pistols and nail scissors.
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