Driving with a paddle clutch?

[moleamol]

Hello people, I'm getting a competition paddle clutch fitted to the Integrale due to the increased power/torque. Previously I just had a heavy duty affair with a stronger springy thing and a tougher plate. However, this type can no longer handle it (she cannee take the power jim I tells ya').

Has anyone got any tips on how to drive with a paddle clutch? I know it's going to be more on/off but are there any tips to help me get by with it day to day. Also, anything I should avoid so that I don't need to get a new one next week

Cheers.

Sorry for the on topic topic

[gtir]

Dude,
I have an AP paddle clutch in my R, and to be honest there is no real trick to driving. Its just judder, stop, judder, stop!

Some days you will pull away smoothly and others you will be juddering like the chaganogga choo choo.

The only advice I can offer is once you have bite is to just let the clutch up, dont fanny about as you would with a normal clutch.

[CarZee]

Hello people, I'm getting a competition paddle clutch fitted to my sphincter due to the increased thrust/torque. Previously I just had a heavy duty 'affair' with a stronger springy thing and a tougher plate. However, this type can no longer handle it (she cannee take the power jim I tells ya').

Has anyone got any tips on how to drive with a paddle crotch? I know it's going to be more in/out but are there any tips to help me get by with it day to day. Also, anything I should avoid so that I don't need to get a new one next week

Don't sit down too quickly?

[jodypress]

i had a paddle clutch in my old gtir and was the worst thing u could do, driving it wasn't a big hassle but they are designed for hardcore rallying and only last a few thousand miles ,on average. i managed to get 10,000 out of mine and then changed back to a stronger organic one.
how long did your last uprated one last?
good luck if you go down that route.

jody

[gtir]

jodypress said: only last a few thousand miles ,on average. i managed to get 10,000 out of mine and then changed back to a stronger organic one.

jody

Everyone seems to say this, but I have never seen any evidence.
Mine has been in for 2.5 years, and has covered 27k so...

[moleamol]

jodypress said: i had a paddle clutch in my old gtir and was the worst thing u could do, driving it wasn't a big hassle but they are designed for hardcore rallying and only last a few thousand miles ,on average. i managed to get 10,000 out of mine and then changed back to a stronger organic one.
how long did your last uprated one last?
good luck if you go down that route.

jody

Not very long really, Integrales have a lot of torque really for a 4 pot turbo and mine has more than the average Integrale. The uprated one still worked fine but at 3000 revs where all the torque is it just slipped like a bugger and then caught hold again at about 4500.

Someone said as long as I don't slip the clutch the wear shouldn't be too bad as it's the slipping that will burn a paddle clutch, not hard diving.

[moleamol]

gtir said:

jodypress said: only last a few thousand miles ,on average. i managed to get 10,000 out of mine and then changed back to a stronger organic one.

jody

Everyone seems to say this, but I have never seen any evidence.
Mine has been in for 2.5 years, and has covered 27k so...

Woohoo, bit of confidence for me at last

Is it because you don't slip it? You mentioned the best thing to do on bite is just let up. Maybe it is the driving tyle that alters the wear. My garage did seem confident it would last if driven 'properly'.

[aww999]

I have a kevlar clutch in my Supra, very nice and easy to drive round town, but not suitable for extreme power applications as it will slip eventually. I'm thinking I may have to go for a carbon/carbon unit after the next power hike, these are also very "streetable" but will lap up any amount of boost and abuse you can throw at them. Expensive though

[jodypress]

well there is also another reason to avoid paddle clutches. they transmit more power to other parts of mechanicals, re gearbox. because there is no slipping ( not worn type) the power go bang straight to other compnents. i blew my gearbox, very quickly once changed to paddle.
speak to hiteq re cltuches etc, they know their stuff

[gtir]

moleamol said:

gtir said:

jodypress said: only last a few thousand miles ,on average. i managed to get 10,000 out of mine and then changed back to a stronger organic one.

jody

Everyone seems to say this, but I have never seen any evidence.
Mine has been in for 2.5 years, and has covered 27k so...

Woohoo, bit of confidence for me at last

Is it because you don't slip it? You mentioned the best thing to do on bite is just let up. Maybe it is the driving tyle that alters the wear. My garage did seem confident it would last if driven 'properly'.

God knows, but I get pissed off with people saying paddle clutches are crap, usually by people who dont actually have one just "a mate" told me. dicks!

Paddle clutches are not supposed to slip, thats why they are off or on. Saying that when mine is cold it makes a funny graunching noise sometimes, but this seems to be normal. I have 300hp and I have never experienced any slip whatsoever.

Funnily enough, AP paddle clutches are like rocking horse poop as it seems thay have discontinued this line!

[moleamol]

gtir said:Funnily enough, AP paddle clutches are like rocking horse poop as it seems thay have discontinued this line!

Well the one I'm getting is a Helix as far as I know. In traffic do you just hang back and then sprint to the car in front?

[jodypress]

gtir said:

moleamol said:

gtir said:

jodypress said: only last a few thousand miles ,on average. i managed to get 10,000 out of mine and then changed back to a stronger organic one.

jody

Everyone seems to say this, but I have never seen any evidence.
Mine has been in for 2.5 years, and has covered 27k so...

Woohoo, bit of confidence for me at last

Is it because you don't slip it? You mentioned the best thing to do on bite is just let up. Maybe it is the driving tyle that alters the wear. My garage did seem confident it would last if driven 'properly'.

God knows, but I get pissed off with people saying paddle clutches are crap, usually by people who dont actually have one just "a mate" told me. dicks!

Paddle clutches are not supposed to slip, thats why they are off or on. Saying that when mine is cold it makes a funny graunching noise sometimes, but this seems to be normal. I have 300hp and I have never experienced any slip whatsoever.

Funnily enough, AP paddle clutches are like rocking horse poop as it seems thay have discontinued this line!

hi gtir,
i am only speaking from my experience and from what i gathered in my couple of years of gtir ownership which ended up in a highly modded gtir with quaife gearbox etc. i found the organic clutch much better and my friend has a special made up organic clutch from the states ready to handle 450bhp and 475lb torque. i never said paddle cluthce are crap just that they are designed for hardcore rallying/racing etc where an engine/drive train normally gets stripped and rebuilt a lot more than a road car.
if there is a choice i would now always go for an organic clutch oveer a paddle one and thats mho

[iguana]

moleamol said: In traffic do you just hang back and then sprint to the car in front?

In truth- yes.

Paddle clutchs on road cars are a bloody nightmere in traffic and hill starts.

Try a hill start with 500bhp and a paddle clutch when you have cars tight behind & in front if you want a candidate for an 'I'm about to loose my insurance excess' moment

[moleamol]

iguana said:

moleamol said: In traffic do you just hang back and then sprint to the car in front?

In truth- yes.

Paddle clutchs on road cars are a bloody nightmere in traffic and hill starts.

Try a hill start with 500bhp and a paddle clutch when you have cars tight behind & in front if you want a candidate for an 'I'm about to loose my insurance excess' moment

Excellent, it's a bugger in the wet anyway with the power and rear wheel bias. Pulling out of junctions sideways is not big and not clever. It is damn good fun though

[gtir]

jodypress said:
hi gtir,
i am only speaking from my experience and from what i gathered in my couple of years of gtir ownership

then dont talk to me, how dare you sell your GTIR, how dare you!

poor thing is propably being thrashed by some 19 year old as we speak.



>> Edited by gtir on Wednesday 19th March 13:36

[jodypress]

gtir said:

jodypress said:
hi gtir,
i am only speaking from my experience and from what i gathered in my couple of years of gtir ownership

then dont talk to me, how dare you sell your GTIR, how dare you!

poor thing is propably being thrashed by some 19 year old as we speak.



>> Edited by gtir on Wednesday 19th March 13:36

hey had the calling of 5l v8 power and rwd and roofless fun. had the griff 500 almost a year and loved every minute of it, wet times too