Dream scenario ...
Discussion
For the sake of discussion , let's just say that in a short while i'll be receiving roughly 15 grand that i'll spend on a car (bare in mind i'm 17 and live in a rural area of northern france but regularly commute to england aswell so motorway driving is as important as country lane driving).
Insurance costs are not an issue so don't go saying "bla bla bla insurance ... bla bla bla nissan micra ..."
I've got some cars in mind , but i would like the opinion of PHers on this.
My list is as follows :
Mitsubishi Evo 6 (you all know why)
TVR Chimaera 4.5 (love the looks but i fear i will kill myself)
Jaguar XJR ( very thirsty)
Land Rover (may want to go offroading)
Cobra replica (have wanted one since i was 8)
BMW 540i OR 740i (they look cool especially the 7)
Caterham or Westfield (great performance but not too practical when it snows)
Escort Cosworth (Cos im a hooligan)
BMW Z3M Cabriolet (not sure if i'll find a good one for 15 grand tho)
So what say you ???
Insurance costs are not an issue so don't go saying "bla bla bla insurance ... bla bla bla nissan micra ..."
I've got some cars in mind , but i would like the opinion of PHers on this.
My list is as follows :
Mitsubishi Evo 6 (you all know why)
TVR Chimaera 4.5 (love the looks but i fear i will kill myself)
Jaguar XJR ( very thirsty)
Land Rover (may want to go offroading)
Cobra replica (have wanted one since i was 8)
BMW 540i OR 740i (they look cool especially the 7)
Caterham or Westfield (great performance but not too practical when it snows)
Escort Cosworth (Cos im a hooligan)
BMW Z3M Cabriolet (not sure if i'll find a good one for 15 grand tho)
So what say you ???
Ahh so this is the famous insurance scam/solution mentioned in
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=22217&f=30&h=0
Not sure France insurance companies are that cheap either for a 17yo sports car. Before deciding I would get quotes for all of them to help you decide. How much money have you got for servicing etc.
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=22217&f=30&h=0
Not sure France insurance companies are that cheap either for a 17yo sports car. Before deciding I would get quotes for all of them to help you decide. How much money have you got for servicing etc.
monty_python said:
Bodo said: French or British insurance?
doesn't matter , im asking about the cars.
If it's only about cars, I agree with the Landrover (90/110 that is) as a first car. I had Landrovers for the first six years of my license, and I never made an accident with them, nor did they caught me speeding
smeagol said: Ahh so this is the famous insurance scam/solution mentioned in
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=22217&f=30&h=0
Not sure France insurance companies are that cheap either for a 17yo sports car. Before deciding I would get quotes for all of them to help you decide. How much money have you got for servicing etc.
Yes it is actually ,
but when i said "doesn't matter im asking about the cars" i was trying to say never mind the fcuking insurance !
So what would you go for ?
edited to say that the 3 grand has been turned into fifteen grandand insurance is still not a problem. So please only reply to this thread if you have an opinion of which car to get. Don't bother if you're just gonna say "what about insurance...".
>> Edited by monty_python on Saturday 22 March 16:47
Well worth starting out with something sedate and working your way up. No disrespect intended, but no matter how good a driver you are, jumping straight into a 200 - 300 bhp car with zero experience is a recipe for disaster.
Insurance is all based on statistics -
Inexperienced driver plus Powerful car = Very Large Risk.
Hence premiums are placed unrealistically high for this group.
Besides, some of my best driving experiences have been in my first car (Fiesta). It doesn't have to be brutally fast to be fun.
Insurance is all based on statistics -
Inexperienced driver plus Powerful car = Very Large Risk.
Hence premiums are placed unrealistically high for this group.
Besides, some of my best driving experiences have been in my first car (Fiesta). It doesn't have to be brutally fast to be fun.
Ignoring all practicalities I would go for the TVR coz its a TVR!
The EVO would be a consideration coz its so damm quick point to point and it will probably be a better commuting car than the TVR.
So,
Head says evo
Heart says TVR
Go with the heart....
PS.
What about insurance????!!!!!!
(joking, just trying to wind you up!)
The EVO would be a consideration coz its so damm quick point to point and it will probably be a better commuting car than the TVR.
So,
Head says evo
Heart says TVR
Go with the heart....
PS.
What about insurance????!!!!!!
(joking, just trying to wind you up!)
robp said: Ignoring all practicalities I would go for the TVR coz its a TVR!
The EVO would be a consideration coz its so damm quick point to point and it will probably be a better commuting car than the TVR.
So,
Head says evo
Heart says TVR
Go with the heart....
PS.
What about insurance????!!!!!!
(joking, just trying to wind you up!)
This is the kind of answer i've been expecting from PHers ! !
Even if he did ask about the insurance ! ! ! ! !
monty_python said:
robp said: Ignoring all practicalities I would go for the TVR coz its a TVR!
The EVO would be a consideration coz its so damm quick point to point and it will probably be a better commuting car than the TVR.
So,
Head says evo
Heart says TVR
Go with the heart....
PS.
What about insurance????!!!!!!
(joking, just trying to wind you up!)
This is the kind of answer i've been expecting from PHers ! !
Even if he did ask about the insurance ! ! ! ! !
So go on, whats your preference?
You must have a thought in the back of your mind which are your favourites????......
Unless you've got some sort of motorsport experience or something I wouldn't recommend any of those cars apart from maybe the Land Rover...
They're all very powerful and if you lack experience you'll probabaly just end up stuffing it into a hedge/ditch
I'm sure you'll say you'll take it steady the fact is unless you're one in a million you won't and then you'll be putting not only your life, but others at risk!
They're all very powerful and if you lack experience you'll probabaly just end up stuffing it into a hedge/ditch
I'm sure you'll say you'll take it steady the fact is unless you're one in a million you won't and then you'll be putting not only your life, but others at risk!
To be honest i cant really say , i'm very fond of all of them. I suppose the bmw would be my last choices but i'd still love a 540i 740i or Z3M.
They're all different and have differet strong points , i couldn't go offroading in the tvr but the land rover wouldn't powerslide.
you have to choose one of the extremes : comfort , performance , looks etc ... or try to find a good enough balance.
But if you really want to know i keep having an image oin my head of me , Marie-Laure (girlfriend) in a dark blue Chimaera 4.5 with cream leather int, with the top down just cruising with the beautiful french countryside all around and the sunset in the distance.
Perfection.
Tony.
They're all different and have differet strong points , i couldn't go offroading in the tvr but the land rover wouldn't powerslide.
you have to choose one of the extremes : comfort , performance , looks etc ... or try to find a good enough balance.
But if you really want to know i keep having an image oin my head of me , Marie-Laure (girlfriend) in a dark blue Chimaera 4.5 with cream leather int, with the top down just cruising with the beautiful french countryside all around and the sunset in the distance.
Perfection.
Tony.
seaton said: Who told you Land Rovers wont power slide?
I had a series III with a 3.5V8 selectable RWD and cross-ply mud tyres which = sideways fun
no one, i know full well that land rovers will power slide (
) but if your choice was new land rover or second hand TVR (or similar) wouldn't you go for the TVR. i'm just suggesting, an old LR for around £1k AND a trevor...
my recommendation is either the chim, or the cobra - I too have lusted after one since I was ickle 
I think it would have to be the cobra: raw experience, image, always wanted one, simply gorgeous looks, + all the other obvious reasons 
I must play devil here - I drove quite a few fast cars just after I passed as every day drives & I think if you have the skills & the sense, you have the skills and that's it. Of course if you don't, and you think you have, big trouble
no offence meant
have fun!
>> Edited by minimax on Saturday 22 March 19:04
>> Edited by minimax on Saturday 22 March 19:05
I think it would have to be the cobra: raw experience, image, always wanted one, simply gorgeous looks, + all the other obvious reasons I must play devil here - I drove quite a few fast cars just after I passed as every day drives & I think if you have the skills & the sense, you have the skills and that's it. Of course if you don't, and you think you have, big trouble
no offence meant have fun!
>> Edited by minimax on Saturday 22 March 19:04
>> Edited by minimax on Saturday 22 March 19:05
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