xbox: shall I, shall'nt I??
Discussion
Some of it is to do with the controller. It has two joysticks but they are offset and the controller doesn't seem to sit in your hand as well as the PS2 one, prob cos the Xbox one is bigger.
I played Halo on my mates Xbox and although it's a good game the controls were strange. If you moved the main joystick left and right you would shuffle left and right and not turn - this is done on the other joystick. Hope that makes sense!!!
We got four of us together and played on the Xbox and my PS2. Although Halo is 4 player, and GTA Vice city is one player we spent much longer on the PS2! When you run them back to back like this you really notice the difference in graphics (Xbox is excellent) and the speed to load the game, again Xbox is quicker here as it has a hard disk. Despite this we all agreed that the PS2 was better all round.
Nik
I played Halo on my mates Xbox and although it's a good game the controls were strange. If you moved the main joystick left and right you would shuffle left and right and not turn - this is done on the other joystick. Hope that makes sense!!!
We got four of us together and played on the Xbox and my PS2. Although Halo is 4 player, and GTA Vice city is one player we spent much longer on the PS2! When you run them back to back like this you really notice the difference in graphics (Xbox is excellent) and the speed to load the game, again Xbox is quicker here as it has a hard disk. Despite this we all agreed that the PS2 was better all round.
Nik
I have both, and since it was an early xbox it has the giant hand cramping controls. They suck. The new ones are apparently better.
Having said that, I'd probably have the PS2 over the xbox if I could only have one. It currently has more must have games, although I'm big on the less mainstream stuff like Ico, Rez etc.
Its ironic as I bought the xbox when it came out, and vowed never to buy a PS2 considering it overhyped and underpowered. I then won one in a competition and realised how I nearly missed out on some amazing games.
Worth noting the gamecube can now be picked up from argos for 89 quid including a memory card and 1 game! Bargain.
They're really good IMO, some top games out there and they'll only get better. You get used to the Xbox controller and you can buy smaller ones for not much £££.
The Graphics are far superior to the PS2 and if you get one from here
www.phoenixmods.co.uk
You can pick up the latest US and Jap games from here
www.pir8forums.com
for £6.00 each.
I got mine from Phoenix, they're 100% reliable and even courier your box from and back if it goes wrong (like mine did). You'll regret buying an official one every time you hand over £45 for a crappy game.
>> Edited by dave_s13 on Wednesday 26th March 17:40
The Graphics are far superior to the PS2 and if you get one from here
www.phoenixmods.co.uk
You can pick up the latest US and Jap games from here
www.pir8forums.com
for £6.00 each.
I got mine from Phoenix, they're 100% reliable and even courier your box from and back if it goes wrong (like mine did). You'll regret buying an official one every time you hand over £45 for a crappy game.
>> Edited by dave_s13 on Wednesday 26th March 17:40
Well aside from the moral issues of chipping an xbox to play pirate games (after all, who cares that the software industry is f****d with only derivative Fifa XXs making any money), you also can't use XBox live if its chipped.
May or may not be an issue. I'm toying with getting mine chipped so I can play MAME games on the big telly.
xbox sucks major bum-hole imho, not only is it simply a reboxed PC (complete with pentium processor and nforce-esque onboard graphics) it's made by microsoft.
(I'm rather anti-microsoft)
The PS2 whips it on playability, and imho the xbox has single handedly stopped the pc game industry in it's tracks - major game developers are releasing games that *were* destined for PC on xbox only (halo for one - that would have been SO much more playable on a PC) or on xbox six to eight months ahead of the PC. More microsoft monopoly imho.
Plus, you can't get quality gameage on the xbox like GT3 and GTA3/VC...
(and if you're really hankering after the old games etc, the PS2 has a linux kit available in japan and the states, so it should be coming here soon - simply get that, and run Mame or XSnes or whatever on that. Sorted!)
(I'm rather anti-microsoft)
The PS2 whips it on playability, and imho the xbox has single handedly stopped the pc game industry in it's tracks - major game developers are releasing games that *were* destined for PC on xbox only (halo for one - that would have been SO much more playable on a PC) or on xbox six to eight months ahead of the PC. More microsoft monopoly imho.
Plus, you can't get quality gameage on the xbox like GT3 and GTA3/VC...
(and if you're really hankering after the old games etc, the PS2 has a linux kit available in japan and the states, so it should be coming here soon - simply get that, and run Mame or XSnes or whatever on that. Sorted!)
hi
I think it will probably come down to what you are looking for from youer console
taking you love or hate of MS out of the equation
with the x-box if you get one with the smaller control pad they all come with now it is very easy to use and the addition of the two trigger switches under the pad in my mined makes the x-box controller superior for 1st person shouters.
Also the control lay out menchend elea for a 1st person shouter i.e. one stick makes you walk forward back wards and strafe and the other stick changes where you are looking is the same on both the xbox and ps2
For me halo by its self would make the x-box a wroth it especially if you play two player cooperatively with a mate.
When you add in the boxes hard disk allowing you to use it as an mp3 player for your stored music not just from mp3 cd’s coupled with the superior graphics I think the x-box has the edge.
But with the ps2 you can get games like Vice city, GTA and RES witch all on there owe right make the ps2 worth buying. And you can play both Vice city and GTA for hours think you are getting good at them and then discover hole new areas to the game.
RES is like no other game I have played before it is like a interactive win amp visitation if you like dance music it is great.
If you decide to go for a ps2 the roomer out there at the moment is that it will be dropping in price soon so you might want to hold of for a month or so
I think it will probably come down to what you are looking for from youer console
taking you love or hate of MS out of the equation
with the x-box if you get one with the smaller control pad they all come with now it is very easy to use and the addition of the two trigger switches under the pad in my mined makes the x-box controller superior for 1st person shouters.
Also the control lay out menchend elea for a 1st person shouter i.e. one stick makes you walk forward back wards and strafe and the other stick changes where you are looking is the same on both the xbox and ps2
For me halo by its self would make the x-box a wroth it especially if you play two player cooperatively with a mate.
When you add in the boxes hard disk allowing you to use it as an mp3 player for your stored music not just from mp3 cd’s coupled with the superior graphics I think the x-box has the edge.
But with the ps2 you can get games like Vice city, GTA and RES witch all on there owe right make the ps2 worth buying. And you can play both Vice city and GTA for hours think you are getting good at them and then discover hole new areas to the game.
RES is like no other game I have played before it is like a interactive win amp visitation if you like dance music it is great.
If you decide to go for a ps2 the roomer out there at the moment is that it will be dropping in price soon so you might want to hold of for a month or so
Nah Plotloss is not, well it is, but its not.
From a basic component point of view it looks like a low sepc PC but the architecture in between is totally different and thats what makes it fly.
Kind of like the difference between a MAC and a PC with the same processor speed, the MAC will be quicker, its all about efficient use of clock cycles (and other such complicated stuffs).
And you CAN use Xbox live with a chipped box, read through the link I posted above.
>> Edited by dave_s13 on Thursday 27th March 11:38
From a basic component point of view it looks like a low sepc PC but the architecture in between is totally different and thats what makes it fly.
Kind of like the difference between a MAC and a PC with the same processor speed, the MAC will be quicker, its all about efficient use of clock cycles (and other such complicated stuffs).
And you CAN use Xbox live with a chipped box, read through the link I posted above.
>> Edited by dave_s13 on Thursday 27th March 11:38
My house mate has an xbox, i find the games aren't very playable, and i quickly get bored of them.
Even colin mcrae can't hold my attention, and sega GT is good, but the car control is unrealistic and it was completed in a few days. Gran Turismo it ain't.
My 2p worth: i wouldn't waste my your money on any of them, theyll be obsolete in a year or two!
Even colin mcrae can't hold my attention, and sega GT is good, but the car control is unrealistic and it was completed in a few days. Gran Turismo it ain't.
My 2p worth: i wouldn't waste my your money on any of them, theyll be obsolete in a year or two!
plotloss said: But at the end of the day surely the VGA adapter is where the work is done, and that adapter has been surpassed many times since the Xbox was released...
Matt.
I'm no expert on computer architecture but I'm pretty sure it isn't as simple as that.
You could put the latest super fly VGA adapter in a standard spec PC and you won't see much difference in graphics performace. It's the cumulative effect of all your components, one weak link will bottleneck performance.
All the bits and bobs (including the operating system) in an Xbox are specific to the task of playing games and AFAIK its graphical capabilities still surpass any conventional PC. That doesn't mean to say there are any games out that take full advantage though, it usually takes a while with a new platform.
Anyone in the know care to comment?
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