Channel 5 - 5th Gear
Discussion
Jag piece was quite good... but that bloke is a right tit. After that it all went a bit downhill.
Although the bit on the Astom Martin works was a missed opportunity... they could have done a decent 1 hour special on that, rather than a 5 minute snapshot.... and what was the tune they were playing in the background?!?! Having just been driving Macca's old Aston, surely a better tune could have been picked...
Although the bit on the Astom Martin works was a missed opportunity... they could have done a decent 1 hour special on that, rather than a 5 minute snapshot.... and what was the tune they were playing in the background?!?! Having just been driving Macca's old Aston, surely a better tune could have been picked...
plotloss said: That Aston piece was fabulous!
Agreed though Podie it should have been a one hour special.
How marvellous that AM provide such a service, makes one proud to be British.
Matt.
Plotty, the boys at Newport Pagnell have done this for years. In fact pre-Ford and during the classic car boom, people were taking old Aston's in and saying "make it as good as new and I don't care how much it costs"... at one point in time, the works were the only part of the company to be making a profit!
I used to go there once a week, but was only there requirements gathering so really didnt have time to stop and chat. It always struck me as slightly odd that they always had everything from the latest Vantage (this was '96) to the early models there having all sorts of work done to them, never really made the connection.
There is a word for what they do there, and its been pretty much forgotten in this new disposable society and that is plainly and simply craftsmen.
Matt.
There is a word for what they do there, and its been pretty much forgotten in this new disposable society and that is plainly and simply craftsmen.
Matt.
plotloss said: I used to go there once a week, but was only there requirements gathering so really didnt have time to stop and chat. It always struck me as slightly odd that they always had everything from the latest Vantage (this was '96) to the early models there having all sorts of work done to them, never really made the connection.
There is a word for what they do there, and its been pretty much forgotten in this new disposable society and that is plainly and simply craftsmen.
Matt.
I've been lucky enough to wonder round the factory (perk of the job!) and yep... no other word for it... true craftsmen!

The problem with this Series of 5th gear is that they are trying to ape the excellent re-vamp of TopGear.
This "we always wondered section (Exploding cars this week) is a rip of what Clarkson and Co did (remember the How fast do you need to go to not set of a speed camera & the double decker stunt)
Also on the first episode they said (and this made me cringe)"when it comes to testing performance cars we've got the Tiff"!! (hmmm not the Stig then)
They are making the classic mistake of bothering too much about what the opposition is doing and not enough about how their programme is going together.
Last nights stunt was a bit pointless but also dominated the programme too much, they have only 23 minutes of actual show whereas Top gear in it's new format has 57 minutes so a multi part stunt can be accomodated easily...
Also that fat bloke Tom thingy is crap.....
This "we always wondered section (Exploding cars this week) is a rip of what Clarkson and Co did (remember the How fast do you need to go to not set of a speed camera & the double decker stunt)
Also on the first episode they said (and this made me cringe)"when it comes to testing performance cars we've got the Tiff"!! (hmmm not the Stig then)
They are making the classic mistake of bothering too much about what the opposition is doing and not enough about how their programme is going together.
Last nights stunt was a bit pointless but also dominated the programme too much, they have only 23 minutes of actual show whereas Top gear in it's new format has 57 minutes so a multi part stunt can be accomodated easily...
Also that fat bloke Tom thingy is crap.....
Exint2 said:
They are making the classic mistake of bothering too much about what the opposition is doing and not enough about how their programme is going together.
Also that fat bloke Tom thingy is crap.....
A Saddam bunker busting bullseye!
Tom Ford really is hopeless; a completely inadequate review of the new Jagster in which overall refinement was hardly covered.
Why oh why was there no group test with the likely competition? Or at least verbal commentary given about such comparisons?
To spend so much time aping around with some tedious fireworks recaptured the essence of that other minor channel motoring dirge that was, 'Drivel.'
Bring back Wilhelm Woolard and even that Goffey bloke whose son's the seriously ugly one in 'Supergrass' (whoops, more nepotism at the BBC)...
What a waste of transmittable bandwidth. El shame.
Re the Aston bit: 'they restore to better than new' WTF? That's not much of an add for Aston build, why don't they make em like that in the first place? (I realise this doesn't count for the older stuff).
And I concur with the general feeling about 5th gear... last nights show was crap with that stupid stunt feature. I remember when they sent tiff to drive the Enzo. Now THAT was worth watching. Currently its nearly as bad as that pile of sh!te ITV stick on at 11PM
And I concur with the general feeling about 5th gear... last nights show was crap with that stupid stunt feature. I remember when they sent tiff to drive the Enzo. Now THAT was worth watching. Currently its nearly as bad as that pile of sh!te ITV stick on at 11PM
icamm said: However, the previous series was much better when it was more like the old (and much missed by me) Top Gear.
It's as bad as the last series of Drivel now though IMHO. [rant] So cars don't explode in accidents (often) but ancient Orions don't take kindly to being rear ended by equally ancient Renaults SO F___ING WHAT !!!!! [/rant]
I think the head on collision "stunt" the other week was quite good... having seen and examined the carnage caused from accidents, it's a reminder of the fact that cars can be dangerous. Hopefully that will be the only crash many people will ever see...
The rest of the programme is rapidly going down the pan. Last night's stunt was boring... not only that, but the bloody thing exploded BEFORE it hit the truck
The rest of the programme is rapidly going down the pan. Last night's stunt was boring... not only that, but the bloody thing exploded BEFORE it hit the truck

I don't care how crap it is (and it is very crap) I would still watch it to have a goggle at Butler-Henderson-Farquarson-Smythe's norks.
I wish they would have shown the replica Bond DB5 Aston did. That would be the coolest car to have. Pitty they only made it squirt water not oil, that would come in handy for the Max Power crowd.
I wish they would have shown the replica Bond DB5 Aston did. That would be the coolest car to have. Pitty they only made it squirt water not oil, that would come in handy for the Max Power crowd.
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