F1 or Superbike?

[g4ry13]

Just wondering which would be fastest around a full GP cicuit. Had a fair idea but not too sure, and i cant be bothered to get look at any statistics

So if anyone has any idea or proper statistics i'd appreciate it.

Thanks Gary

[alan_driver]

superbike

[cazzo]

Would think F1 for three reasons;

1 more grip due to 4 wheels = higher cornering speed, better Traction & better braking.
2 Power-to-weight ratio is, I would think as high and so should accelerate at least as well.
3. Faster top speed.

Of course I could be talking out my ar5e

[pies]

I'll go for a different one "bike with sidecar"

[FourWheelDrift]

Formula One cars are much quicker.

Take San Marino, where both Superbikes and GP cars race.

Superbike Superpole 2002: Troy Bayliss (Ducati) 1m 35.525s

F1 Pole Position 2002: M. Schumacher (Ferrari) 1m 21.091s

[Roadrunner]

Schumacher v Foggarty would be a close call, but I'd place my money on the car due to grip and downforce.

[cortinaman]

i know when clarkson put a car(porsche) and a bike(gsxr i think) in a head-to-head to try and answer this question the car won.

[cortinaman]

yeah,true.

did you see the diffrence between the lap time of the cougar(clarkson),the focus rally car(c.mcrae) and the f1( j.herbert)......now THAT was shifting.)

[alan_driver]

cortinaman said: i know when clarkson put a car(porsche) and a bike(gsxr i think) in a head-to-head to try and answer this question the car won.

The bike got cut up by the car, which blocked the bikes racing line.

[Roadrunner]

It also depends on exactly how 'super' the bike was too. I expect a holeshot racing 'busa with 450bhp would close the gap a little more.

[RCA]

cortinaman said: i know when clarkson put a car(porsche) and a bike(gsxr i think) in a head-to-head to try and answer this question the car won.

Yes, It was a Porsche and a Yamaha R1, It was mighty close but the porsche did it!!

[alan_driver]

cazzo said: Would think F1 for three reasons;

1 more grip due to 4 wheels = higher cornering speed, better Traction & better braking.
2 Power-to-weight ratio is, I would think as high and so should accelerate at least as well.
3. Faster top speed.

Of course I could be talking out my ar5e

I have loked into this before, i found that the bike should be able to do it faster, due to faster acceleration and higher top speeds.

[cortinaman]

it was a race alan,and winning is all that counts.

getting 'cut up' means nothing if you cant keep the speed through the bends anyway,as was the case with the bike.if the porsche hadnt taken the opertunity to pass the bike,he would have lost speed and had to gain that all back.

as clarkson pointed out at the time,the bike was a v.high performance machine but the porsche was nowhere near as highly regarded in the car 'evolutionary scale'.

[RCA]

I wouldn't say that it really got cut up, I have it on one of clarksons vids, On the straights the R1 was a lot quicker than the porsche but on the corners it just could not keep up. There was only tenths of seconds in it though.

[alan_driver]

You are forgetting that circuits have corners and a F1 car produces a shit load of down force and will out grip anything

I understand that mungo, and personally i thought that the car would be faster, the reason I said the superbike was due to the fact a mate once said that a superbike would win, i looked on the net to try and prove him wrong, but it turned out he was right. I doubt things have changed that much since i looked it up (a few years back) but i could be wrong.

[RCA]

I guess it comes down to the circuit as well, One will long straights and less corners is going to favour the bike

[cortinaman]

RCA said: I wouldn't say that it really got cut up, I have it on one of clarksons vids, On the straights the R1 was a lot quicker than the porsche but on the corners it just could not keep up. There was only tenths of seconds in it though.

yeah,its on clarkson-head to head.

[RCA]

I know which I would rather watch round a circuit!!!, In fact watching them now!!!

[alan_driver]

Well as BCA say's. depends on the circuit. Was there a particular circuit you had in mind gary?

[pvapour]

more compairable is probably Moto-GP & Formula 1, but the car would still be faster overall, although the new breed moto gp bikes (4 strokes & not 2 strokes) are producing over 220 bhp (1100bhp per tonne inc. rider)and pulled 205 mph in recent testing (can't remember track) on the straight, so would be quicker than F1 on the straight, but overall, F1. but there again, what about Hokenheim......

>> Edited by pvapour on Sunday 6th April 14:11