BA to make an announcement Concorde future.
BA to make an announcement Concorde future.
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FourWheelDrift

Original Poster:

92,395 posts

315 months

Wednesday 9th April 2003
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An official annoucement will be made Thursday morning.

It seems though it will probably say that they will be taken out of service (possibly within the next 2 years).

End of an era

CarZee

13,382 posts

298 months

Wednesday 9th April 2003
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oh well - if they ever do another Live Aid, Phil 'no toupé required' Collins won't get two sets again...

Where's the downside?

CarZee

13,382 posts

298 months

knight

5,235 posts

310 months

Thursday 10th April 2003
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Not a big BA fan, but it will be a shame to see it retire. Working at Heathrow I get to see (and hear) it quite often and it still makes an impressive sight.

levensnevel

245 posts

303 months

Thursday 10th April 2003
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Understand that BA aswell as Air France will ground Concorde as from october 2003 for economical reasons. Anyway, that's what they are telling on dutch radio.

levensnevel

a smile every mile

ps sorry Carzee, read your link only after my posting.

>> Edited by levensnevel on Thursday 10th April 08:18

>> Edited by levensnevel on Thursday 10th April 08:18

plotloss

67,280 posts

301 months

Thursday 10th April 2003
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What a sad day.

Matt.

Podie

46,649 posts

306 months

Thursday 10th April 2003
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plotloss said: What a sad day.

Matt.


Agreed... never got to go supersonic, but been on a champagne flight!

fish

4,064 posts

313 months

Thursday 10th April 2003
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Flew to NY on concorde afew years ago. One of the best flights ever. There was plenty of room in the seats, the food was superb including full silver cutlery and more importantly you landed before you took off.

With technology moving forwards I can't understand why airtravel is moving backwards.

It was quoted at the time in the sixties that designing Concorde to fly commercially was probebly more difficult than putting a man on the moon. And over it's years of flying still the safest aircraft ever...

A truly sad day....

GregE240

10,857 posts

298 months

Thursday 10th April 2003
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Without wishing to stir up any anti US feeling, I can't help but think if Boeing had come up with the idea, every airline would have one. Or seven.

A sad day. British engineering (OK, with a bit of French help) at its best.

mrs fish

30,018 posts

289 months

Thursday 10th April 2003
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Concorde is to be retired from service.

BA and Air France say the 1,320mph supersonic aircraft is being axed for "commercial reasons, with passenger revenue falling steadily against a backdrop of rising maintenance costs for the aircraft".

The announcement brings to an end a supersonic era which began when the 100-seater Concorde made its first flight in 1969, followed by the start of passenger services in 1976.

BA says detailed discussions, over an extended period, with Airbus, the aircraft's manufacturer, had confirmed the need for an enhanced maintenance programme in the coming years.

The airline went on: "BA has decided that such an investment cannot be justified in the face of falling revenue caused by a global downturn in demand for all forms of premium travel in the airline industry."

It adds the downturn has had a negative impact on Concorde bookings and is set to continue for the foreseeable future.

BA's chief executive Rod Eddington said: "Concorde has served us well and we are extremely proud to have flown this marvellous and unique aircraft for the past 27 years."

Retiring Concorde will result in £84 million write-off costs for the year ended March 2003.

BA says it is already planning to make its Concordes available for the public to view in museums.

BA will continue to operate its Concorde services until October. Air France will withdraw the service at the end of May.


Thom

2,745 posts

304 months

Thursday 10th April 2003
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GregE240 said:British engineering (OK, with a bit of French help) at its best.

You are joking I suppose ?
Apart from the Rolls Royce engines most of it was not designed by English engineers.
The head of the project was a chap named Lucien Servanty. Hardly a British person ! The landing gear is Spanish (Hispano Suiza)

The project was even delayed because the English had not been able to privide the engines on time !

plotloss

67,280 posts

301 months

Thursday 10th April 2003
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But when they did...

What an engine!

Matt.

Don

28,378 posts

315 months

Thursday 10th April 2003
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Glad I went on it when I could. Got to take off and land twice. Flew Toronto to Heathrow (with bounce in Montral). Fantastic. Goes like stink (taking off is NOT like a conventional aircraft - more of a TVR experience!)

End of an era. Might have to see if I can get a flight. I feel gutted - I know a few of the chaps who've been looking after the aircraft from the Airbus end - and they're still proud of it thirty years on.

yertis

19,741 posts

297 months

Thursday 10th April 2003
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Thom said:

GregE240 said:British engineering (OK, with a bit of French help) at its best.

You are joking I suppose ?
Apart from the Rolls Royce engines most of it was not designed by English engineers.
The head of the project was a chap named Lucien Servanty. Hardly a British person ! The landing gear is Spanish (Hispano Suiza)

The project was even delayed because the English had not been able to privide the engines on time !


Well if you lot had looked after yours better / kept your runways swept / generally not crashed it then we probably wouldn't be having to ground it anyway .

Have to hand it to you Thom, for a Frenchman you have a lot of balls to come on here and say things like that. I guess you and I can be buddies....

Thom

2,745 posts

304 months

Thursday 10th April 2003
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yertis said:Well if you lot had looked after yours better / kept your runways swept / generally not crashed it then we probably wouldn't be having to ground it anyway .

Do I have to understand you are grounding the Concorde because we are responsible for the Gonesse crash ?!
Well that's a first and an easy excuse !

RichB

56,468 posts

315 months

Thursday 10th April 2003
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Thom said:

yertis said:Well if you lot had looked after yours better / kept your runways swept / generally not crashed it then we probably wouldn't be having to ground it anyway .

Do I have to understand you are grounding the Concorde because we are responsible for the Gonesse crash ?!
Well that's a first and an easy excuse !

Harsh but fair I would say.

JMGS4

8,935 posts

301 months

Thursday 10th April 2003
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GregE240 said: Without wishing to stir up any anti US feeling, I can't help but think if Boeing had come up with the idea, every airline would have one. Or seven.
A sad day. British engineering (OK, with a bit of French help) at its best.


Large business interests using their might to block good products! It also happened with comet (707), the TriStar (DC10), and others.........

yertis

19,741 posts

297 months

Thursday 10th April 2003
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Thom said:

yertis said:Well if you lot had looked after yours better / kept your runways swept / generally not crashed it then we probably wouldn't be having to ground it anyway .

Do I have to understand you are grounding the Concorde because we are responsible for the Gonesse crash ?!
Well that's a first and an easy excuse !



You heard me right! Bring it on, French boy

Thom

2,745 posts

304 months

Thursday 10th April 2003
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In the Gonesse crash one engine of the Concorde took fire because the BA engineers had not been thinking of designing rubber-chewing capable engines.

GregE240

10,857 posts

298 months

Thursday 10th April 2003
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That'll teach you to nit pick one of my posts, huh Thom?

I'm sure you're sad at this loss as well.