RE: Longbridge MG TF Plans Shattered

RE: Longbridge MG TF Plans Shattered

Tuesday 15th April 2008

Longbridge MG TF Plans Shattered

Fears MG production at plant will never restart


Nanjing unveiled a spruced up TF
Nanjing unveiled a spruced up TF
Cars may never be built at Longbridge again after a plan to revive MG TF production at the plant reportedly collapsed.

Main supplier Stadco has apparently decided to stop manufacturing body-shells for the TF, affectively sounding the ‘death knell’ for the fragile project.

After it bought MG Rover it had been hoped that Nanjing would open up the assembly lines at Longbridge.

But one source has told local media that it is now doubtful whether Nanjing parent SAIC will ever produce cars at Longbridge.

He said the chances of the factory producing MGs was ‘very slim’ and the best the Rover factory could hope for would be a role as a servicing centre.

He pointed out that far more attractive operations had struggled, such as Jaguar, Aston Martin and TVR, and that it would be uneconomical to produce cars at Longbridge.

‘If SAIC/Nanjing thought they could produce cars at Longbridge economically, then I am sure they would,’ he said.

‘But can they do it economically?

‘I cannot see them prepared to spend the sorts of money required. It was always wishful thinking that something would happen. "I accept that some people within Nanjing had intentions to produce. But I have never had the impression they were serious about it.’

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bob1179

Original Poster:

14,126 posts

224 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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Well, that is hardly suprising news.

Goes well with the TVR thread I suppose...

frown

RichardR

2,902 posts

283 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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I thought the original plans were for Nanjing to press the bodyshells and them ship them over with the necessary additional components for final assembly at Lonbridge.

If that's the case what do STADCO, who appear to be an American engineering and fabrication company with a UK operation, have to do with the operation? confused

Tahiti

989 posts

262 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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I'm not sure I'd want a Chinese interpretation of an old design of car anyway.

mrloudly

2,815 posts

250 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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Stadco are a huge pressing company (My biggest customer).
They bought the Castle Brom Jaguar press shop (See the site off the M6) and (for a while) the LDV press shop.

Most people don't realise most car manufacturers don't make
cars, they mostly assemble bits from other suppliers.

Did you know that Mayflower (Bought out by Stadco) Made MGF bodies on a line next to DB7's in Coventry???

Andy M

tomTVR

6,909 posts

256 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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Tahiti said:
I'm not sure I'd want a Chinese interpretation of an old design of car anyway.
Exactly, you would need underpants on your head and pencils sticking out of your nose to buy one over the latest MX5 unless it was VERY cheap.

Vauxcrayzee

182 posts

210 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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I don't know why anyone would be anything but glad over this news. MG Rover was an amalgamation of crappy British car brands that manufactured nothing but fail for too long.

Sure it's a shame people lost their jobs, and it's a shame we don't have a car industry any more... but IMO the blame lies with those who decided that selling cars made with parts designed 20 years ago was acceptable.

B10

1,333 posts

282 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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Vaux you are a misinformed ****** of the highest order. Go back to junior school and learn a bit more about the UK car industry and it's history.

Gun

13,432 posts

233 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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Hardly a surprise really when you can get them built in a foreign country for next to nothing, although with the credit crunch Britain might fall into that bracket soon.

stuartbuckell

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241 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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kevin ritson

3,423 posts

242 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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Vauxcrayzee said:
I don't know why anyone would be anything but glad over this news. MG Rover was an amalgamation of crappy British car brands that manufactured nothing but fail for too long.

Sure it's a shame people lost their jobs, and it's a shame we don't have a car industry any more... but IMO the blame lies with those who decided that selling cars made with parts designed 20 years ago was acceptable.
Ironic, coming from someone who owns a Corsa by choice wink

Seriously though, wasn't the projected price for the new MG TF around £20K? There's no way they'd sell any at that price. Spruce up the bodywork and interior and offer base models at £12K and they'd have a decent product.

Vauxcrayzee

182 posts

210 months

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Fire99

9,862 posts

244 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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kevin ritson said:
Seriously though, wasn't the projected price for the new MG TF around £20K? There's no way they'd sell any at that price. Spruce up the bodywork and interior and offer base models at £12K and they'd have a decent product.
17.5k i believe...

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

232 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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Oh well, I suppose it had been nearly a week since the last MG argument.

andymadmak

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285 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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jamiebae

6,245 posts

226 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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Stadco haven't 'apparently' decided to pull out, they have actually pulled out of the deal and have begun consultations with the workforce because 30 or so are likely to be laid off as a result.

Really, the MGTF has never been a viable option for NAC to produce, there's virtually no market in China for that kind of car so the chances of them actually setting up a press shop in China to make TF shells is very slim.

Stadco used to supply TF body-in-white assemblies to Rover before they went broke so it would be relatively easy to re-start production if they were on board.

andymadmak

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VladD

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Vauxcrayzee

182 posts

210 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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Name me any MG Rover car, from any era that would be a better buy than ANYTHING else on the market. Most of them were crap, some of them were average (MG ZR/ZS) but none of them were excellent at anything.

They weren't the cheapest
They weren't the fastest
They weren't the prettiest
They weren't the safest
They weren't the best handling
They weren't the best specc'd
They weren't the most comfortable

Just about any MG Rover had a better alternative at the time from another manufacturer, that scored better on most or all of the above points.

Don't get me wrong guys, I like the look of the last of the MG Rovers, but they just don't excel at anything that makes the majority of petrolheads want to own one. It's a shame!

VladD

8,119 posts

280 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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Vauxcrayzee said:
Name me any MG Rover car, from any era that would be a better buy than ANYTHING else on the market. Most of them were crap, some of them were average (MG ZR/ZS) but none of them were excellent at anything.

They weren't the cheapest
They weren't the fastest
They weren't the prettiest
They weren't the safest
They weren't the best handling
They weren't the best specc'd
They weren't the most comfortable

Just about any MG Rover had a better alternative at the time from another manufacturer, that scored better on most or all of the above points.

Don't get me wrong guys, I like the look of the last of the MG Rovers, but they just don't excel at anything that makes the majority of petrolheads want to own one. It's a shame!
Name a car in the same segment that was better looking than the MG ZT.

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

242 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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Vauxcrayzee said:
Name me any MG Rover car, from any era that would be a better buy than ANYTHING else on the market. Most of them were crap, some of them were average (MG ZR/ZS) but none of them were excellent at anything.

They weren't the cheapest
They weren't the fastest
They weren't the prettiest
They weren't the safest
They weren't the best handling
They weren't the best specc'd
They weren't the most comfortable

Just about any MG Rover had a better alternative at the time from another manufacturer, that scored better on most or all of the above points.

Don't get me wrong guys, I like the look of the last of the MG Rovers, but they just don't excel at anything that makes the majority of petrolheads want to own one. It's a shame!
Can you say the same for Vauxhall?