mad dutch driver of truck rant

[jesta1865]

so dropped the kids off at gatwick tonight, and coming back to the dartford crossing we have the specs cameras and the 50mph limit, so i stick to it, especially as i think i was done the other day with a handheld unit.

so there i am trundling along at 50, and some mad clog wearing looney comes racing up behind me, and sitting 3 feet from my rear end (in the range rover) flashes me 3 times to go faster. won't go round me, and flashes despite us winding down the windows and pointing to the 50 limit signs and specs camera warning notices.

i think he finally twigged as we left the road works. spanner.

thing was what annoyed us (me and the missus) was that of course he doesn't care as he is over here and won't get done anyway, but thinks he can make us go faster and get a ticket that essentially he can ignore.

i was tempted to wait at dartford and have a word in his shell like (the missus was upset) he was and artic and the range rover is only so tough :-), but my new mellow self said ignore him. pity we never took his reg and found some way of reporting him, my ego would have enjoyed that.

sorry if this in the wrong place, and i expect low marks for the rant, just had to :-)

[anonymous-user]

No different to being up the arse of a slow frog in France. Entente Cordial I say

[jamoor]

Was it a single lane road, or a dual carriageway?

[SS HSV]

This place is good for a rant. Saves pulling him out and battering him and anyway those types end up getting what they deserve on a Darwinian basis

Better to vent here and let him go than to end up doing time for some dick head that has it coming to them.

The weekend is here so go bone your missus and she will forget all about it

[jesta1865]

jamoor said:

Was it a single lane road, or a dual carriageway?

m25 coming up to the dartford crossing from the kent side

[heebeegeetee]

A couple of points - the cloggie runs to a different legal system to the rest of us, no NIPS for him or his mates so best to stay out of their way.

Other point - i truck my way through those road works quite a bit, and those at Luton, and it is absolutely impossible to go through at 50. Every car seems to insist at doing 47 at best, though at times i've been down to below 30 due to cars hogging the lanes and being incapable of maintaining a steady speed.

The speed of the the vast majority of cars goes up and down like a yo-yo, and it seems nobody uses cruise. I know that they all think it is me thats speeding up, but it isn't.

Were you on cruise? If not, i can promise you that you slowed down, especially if you were opening windows and pointing at stuff and such like.

[audidoody]

Your indicated 50mph was probably 46mph as speedometers generally under read. He may have been using his GPS to get his speed. When I go through the 50mph SPECS roadworks I use the Road Angel GPS readout to maintain 50mph. The speedo on the dash reads about 46mph.

Not making excuses for him though. He should have realised you were trying to keep to the indicated limit and taken a chill pill until the roadworks had ended. Thus he's still a tt.

Edited to say: of course I really meant "OVER READ"

Edited by audidoody on Saturday 2nd August 12:34

[Mr_B]

I'm currently doing some work in that section of road works. What happened goes on all day long there. It's even worse on the Dartford clockwise section, the foreign trucks won't slow for the climb and sit inches of the bumper of anyone in their way. Sadly, they know the Police won't stop them for speeding ,unlike in any European country where they try to catch the Brits.

[jamesgrrr]

heebeegeetee said:

Every car seems to insist at doing 47 at best, though at times i've been down to below 30 due to cars hogging the lanes and being incapable of maintaining a steady speed.

The speed of the the vast majority of cars goes up and down like a yo-yo, and it seems nobody uses cruise. I know that they all think it is me thats speeding up, but it isn't.

Were you on cruise? If not, i can promise you that you slowed down, especially if you were opening windows and pointing at stuff and such like.

Err, not everyone has cruise (in fact most don't) and car speedos aren't calibrated after they leave the factory. Ergo, car speedo says 50, car is doing 45/47.

I tend to have my GPS on in my car and an indicated 50 on speedo is 46 on GPS.

[jesta1865]

heebeegeetee said:

A couple of points - the cloggie runs to a different legal system to the rest of us, no NIPS for him or his mates so best to stay out of their way.

Other point - i truck my way through those road works quite a bit, and those at Luton, and it is absolutely impossible to go through at 50. Every car seems to insist at doing 47 at best, though at times i've been down to below 30 due to cars hogging the lanes and being incapable of maintaining a steady speed.

The speed of the the vast majority of cars goes up and down like a yo-yo, and it seems nobody uses cruise. I know that they all think it is me thats speeding up, but it isn't.

Were you on cruise? If not, i can promise you that you slowed down, especially if you were opening windows and pointing at stuff and such like.

no, no cruise and sitting at 50 on my speedo, which i realise is probably only 46, but it means i won't get a ticket.

just because imay not have been doing exactly 50 is no excuse for him to sit 3 foot from my rear bumper flashing his lights, there were 2 other lanes (3 i think) why not go past.

this is the problem with cameras, they don't pick up the poor driving, just your speed. a traffic patrol would have pulled him and done him, the specs units won't as he was sitting behind me doing 50.

if you can't or won't go round then you live with it surely?

[GreenV8S]

audidoody said:

Your indicated 50mph was probably 46mph as speedometers generally under read. He may have been using his GPS to get his speed. When I go through the 50mph SPECS roadworks I use the Road Angel GPS readout to maintain 50mph. The speedo on the dash reads about 46mph.

Speedos invariably over read since it's a legal requirement that they do not under-read. However, from what you say your speedo actually does under-read, which is extremely unusual.

[Chilli]

Regardless of EXACTLY how fast the OP was going and if his speedo was 0.1mph out, or if he had cruise control or not, or whtever....that's his decision. Along that stretch of road, 50 is a maximum, not a minimum. If someone wants to go faster, overtake. If you don't want to or can't sit behind and wait. Simple.

[duff]

Chilli said:

Regardless of EXACTLY how fast the OP was going and if his speedo was 0.1mph out, or if he had cruise control or not, or whtever....that's his decision. Along that stretch of road, 50 is a maximum, not a minimum. If someone wants to go faster, overtake. If you don't want to or can't sit behind and wait. Simple.

Agreed, but you should always do the limit through those sections if it's a clear road. The number of cars that sit at 45 in lane 2 when there is nothing in the inside just encourage people to get up your arse. Also it always looks like a truck is much closer than it actually is - not trying to defend him as he could have passed you in lane 2 by the sounds of things.

[Albert Bridge]

I had this whilst driving to and from Scotland - London a couple of weeks ago. There were quite a few sections of the motorway with a speed limit of 50mph and Average Speed Cameras set up. Driving both there and back I had lorries come within an inch or two of my bumper flashing at me to go faster. No way am I going to risk a fine or points just so that they can get past.
I have to say I did find it quite intimidating and wondered whether it's because I'm female - do they bully guys in the same way?

[duff]

If you were sitting in the middle lane when the inside is free or going under 50 when it's clear then you'll probably get flashed (female or not)

[Albert Bridge]

duff said:

If you were sitting in the middle lane when the inside is free or going under 50 when it's clear then you'll probably get flashed (female or not)

I NEVER sit in the middle lane - I'm no bozo thank you;) I was referring to single lane traffic, where the other lanes have been coned off.

[jesta1865]

duff said:

Chilli said:

Regardless of EXACTLY how fast the OP was going and if his speedo was 0.1mph out, or if he had cruise control or not, or whtever....that's his decision. Along that stretch of road, 50 is a maximum, not a minimum. If someone wants to go faster, overtake. If you don't want to or can't sit behind and wait. Simple.

Agreed, but you should always do the limit through those sections if it's a clear road. The number of cars that sit at 45 in lane 2 when there is nothing in the inside just encourage people to get up your arse. Also it always looks like a truck is much closer than it actually is - not trying to defend him as he could have passed you in lane 2 by the sounds of things.

if you read the thread you would now i was in the inside lane, doing 50 by my speedo, the clog hopper would not go past, instead he sat 3' from my backside and flashed his lights.

as someone who regularly has to park my car near lorries i can tell you the guy was around that close, especially as the only thing i could see in my rear view mirror was his lights and grill. i had seen his number plate as he came up to me rapidly.

[jesta1865]

Chilli said:

Regardless of EXACTLY how fast the OP was going and if his speedo was 0.1mph out, or if he had cruise control or not, or whtever....that's his decision. Along that stretch of road, 50 is a maximum, not a minimum. If someone wants to go faster, overtake. If you don't want to or can't sit behind and wait. Simple.

this is what i didn't understand, i was doing the limit, i even pointed out the signs to him, but he wouldn't go past, just sat there.

as soon as we reached the 60 limit running upto the tunnel, i went to 60 and he dropped away.

very odd, but worring, what if he had done it to an elderly or inexperienced driver who may have panicked and then got a ticket at the very least.

[hugoagogo]

the simple answer is that cloggy truckers in particular are ignorant s who honestly believe that they own the road, for shure, shmokin a pancake

[duff]

jesta1865 said:

duff said:

Chilli said:

Regardless of EXACTLY how fast the OP was going and if his speedo was 0.1mph out, or if he had cruise control or not, or whtever....that's his decision. Along that stretch of road, 50 is a maximum, not a minimum. If someone wants to go faster, overtake. If you don't want to or can't sit behind and wait. Simple.

Agreed, but you should always do the limit through those sections if it's a clear road. The number of cars that sit at 45 in lane 2 when there is nothing in the inside just encourage people to get up your arse. Also it always looks like a truck is much closer than it actually is - not trying to defend him as he could have passed you in lane 2 by the sounds of things.

if you read the thread you would now i was in the inside lane, doing 50 by my speedo, the clog hopper would not go past, instead he sat 3' from my backside and flashed his lights.

as someone who regularly has to park my car near lorries i can tell you the guy was around that close, especially as the only thing i could see in my rear view mirror was his lights and grill. i had seen his number plate as he came up to me rapidly.

I did read the thread properly, did you read my reply?

not trying to defend him as he could have passed you in lane 2 by the sounds of things.

I was making a more general point about why some people get flashed, not defending aggressive driving.