RE: Video: Viper ACR Laps 'Ring In 7.22
Thursday 28th August 2008
The Dodge Viper ACR may just about scrape through as a road car but it has apparently lapped the Nurburgring faster that pretty much anything else to carry number plates. We're not entirely sure how this video has come about (and admittedly haven't sat there with a stop watch timing it) but according to Motor Trend it shows the ACR looping the 'Ring in 7.22.
Video: Viper ACR Laps 'Ring In 7.22
Footage emerges showing Viper race-car-for-road blitzing the Nurburgring.
The driver is undeniably skilled and the car is incredibly rapid but by the number of times it slams into the rev liimiter we're thinking it could actually go a bit quicker. What we also particularly like is the fact this car probably took as long to develop as a Nissan GT-R wheel nut...probably.
See the video here
Discussion
Is it just me or is this all getting a bit tiresome now... all this willy waving by the manufacturers.
The ring is a big lap, and in all forms of motorsport different drivers in the same car produce different times, yet they are all professional drivers at the pinnacle of their sport.
To us mere mortals these ring laps will always look absolutely committed, but for the drivers just how committed is one lap from another. Especially on a circuit like the ring, I would expect the drivers are not absolutely balls-out (and if they are, then we are just waiting for that fatal accident). So how much of this difference in time can be placed with the fine differences in skills of the drivers and their individual commitment over a big lap?
Top Gear have it right, same driver for every car. But even then the weather, ambient temperature etc can all make a difference enough when we are dealing in tenths of a second.
The ring is a big lap, and in all forms of motorsport different drivers in the same car produce different times, yet they are all professional drivers at the pinnacle of their sport.
To us mere mortals these ring laps will always look absolutely committed, but for the drivers just how committed is one lap from another. Especially on a circuit like the ring, I would expect the drivers are not absolutely balls-out (and if they are, then we are just waiting for that fatal accident). So how much of this difference in time can be placed with the fine differences in skills of the drivers and their individual commitment over a big lap?
Top Gear have it right, same driver for every car. But even then the weather, ambient temperature etc can all make a difference enough when we are dealing in tenths of a second.
DamoLLb said:
Bloody hell, can you see the 'shifter' ( thought i would stick with the USA theme) moving around-Suprised he could grab hold of it!
That would explain why he bounced it off the limiter most of the way around!! It could have been much quicker if he'd just changed gear a few more times!! Very quick though, I love the power these things have, it makes it seem like the engines are hardly working. Blimey if they want a new test driver then I'm available. He missed the gear at least twice too. anybody else notice that down the long straight past the tourisfahrten enterance/exit he was only in 4th gear bouncing off the limiter. Does this thing only have 4 gears? Or is it a case of it having really short ratios and what I'm thinking is 2nd is acually 4th!
AndyBe said:
Seems to me he could have done a faster lap.
1) On the rev limiter too much.
2) He doesn't take 5th gear down the long straight.
3) He misses 3rd twice.
Yes quite odd. I made the same observations.1) On the rev limiter too much.
2) He doesn't take 5th gear down the long straight.
3) He misses 3rd twice.
He is losing a lot of momentum and acceleration by waiting for the limiter before shifting on a lot of occasions.
Neil
Credit where credit's due; good time, fast car, manhandled.
But yes, I'm guessing that this guy is not really getting the best out of a well set up car, if a little low for 24 hours.
An 8 litre engine on a rev limiter is doing some fairly heft torque reversals, so I don't know how long it will take this punishment. Missed gears not bright. Has this thing got no torque?
But yes, I'm guessing that this guy is not really getting the best out of a well set up car, if a little low for 24 hours.
An 8 litre engine on a rev limiter is doing some fairly heft torque reversals, so I don't know how long it will take this punishment. Missed gears not bright. Has this thing got no torque?
The Walrus said:
Listening to it when he hits the limiter it is only because it would be pointless changing up, good to see an over engined car still alive and kicking.
that's what i was thinking. Maybe they should have put in taller gear ratios. I know my car used to be a PIA at brands because it would run out of rev just before the braking zone was pointless to try and change upEdited by The Walrus on Thursday 28th August 11:11
h to use, and did you see it vibrate when the car was on the home straight. 
Good lap time.The car runs out of revs just short of the breaking points, so changing up would mean up and then down only a fraction later. Just ahead of brake and turning points (or just behind) that's instead of steering the car! Slightly taller gearing seem the obvious answer, on the box or the diff. Judged from the way the stick moves under acceleration, there is plenty of twist to cope.
Logie said:
Looks to handle well, sounds good aswell. Could the gearing be wrong? I know he was bouncing off the limited a few times, but by the time he changed he be shifting back down again
ph123 said:
Credit where credit's due; good time, fast car, manhandled.
But yes, I'm guessing that this guy is not really getting the best out of a well set up car, if a little low for 24 hours.
An 8 litre engine on a rev limiter is doing some fairly heft torque reversals, so I don't know how long it will take this punishment. Missed gears not bright. Has this thing got no torque?
Not wanting to be pedantic in the slightest, but it's actually 8.3 litre. But yes, I'm guessing that this guy is not really getting the best out of a well set up car, if a little low for 24 hours.
An 8 litre engine on a rev limiter is doing some fairly heft torque reversals, so I don't know how long it will take this punishment. Missed gears not bright. Has this thing got no torque?
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