Run your car on water as petrol is expensive at moment

[woogie]

http://runyourcarwithwater.com/

[Carl_Spackler]

[off_again]

Utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter and complete RUBBISH.

Doesn't work, never will and its a CON-diddle-de-CON-CON....

[Puggit]

off_again said:

Utter, utter, utter, utter, utter, utter and complete RUBBISH.

Doesn't work, never will and its a CON-diddle-de-CON-CON....

Dammit - I just bought one, it looked so good!

[hugoagogo]

the last line "please consult an expert mechanic if you do not have minimal mechanical experience."

[kambites]

You can increase the thermal efficiency of an engine by injecting (small amounts of) water into the cylinders along with the air/fuel mixture. As water changes from liquid to gas (boils) it expands far more than the petrol/air mixture alone would. I have a vague memory that someone experimented with it in F1 at one point.

I somehow doubt that retrofitting such a kit is going to work very well though.

Edited by kambites on Wednesday 24th September 13:22

[crofty1984]

I was going to try running my car on water, but then I thought the money would be better off going to the zoo to see a monkey tug off in a pile of its own feaces.

[hugoagogo]

water injection mainly serves to cool the combustion chamber and the incoming charge, so less detonation and you can use higher compression ratios

[kambites]

hugoagogo said:

water injection mainly serves to cool the combustion chamber and the incoming charge, so less detonation and you can use higher compression ratios

That might be it.

[Motorrad]

Rachael looks dirty I wonder if she takes it up the scutter?

[Mr E]

hugoagogo said:

water injection mainly serves to cool the combustion chamber and the incoming charge, so less detonation and you can use higher compression ratios

Yup, or more boost.

[Ed.]

This does actually work to some degree, the water is not burn though. Pass electric current (12v power supply) through water, oxygen will bubble off one electrode, hydrogen off the other. Feed hydrogen in with your air intake and the engines 02 sensor will decrease fuel intake due to less 02, your engine ends up burning a mixture of hydrogen and fuel saving you money.
The problem is in the fine tuning, you can only do this to a small degree without the engine computer not liking it so would probably better left to someone who knows what they are doing.

[Mr E]

Ed. said:

This does actually work to some degree, the water is not burn though. Pass electric current (12v power supply) through water, oxygen will bubble off one electrode, hydrogen off the other.

And where does the power to do the electrolysis come from?

[hairykrishna]

This thread again...

Real hydrogen injection research is all about scavenging some exhaust heat to produce the hydrogen. Injecting it essentially lets the engine run slightly leaner. It's a small gain.
The jam jar electrolysis kits do fk all.

[OJ]

Homer Simpson said:

In this house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics!

[odyssey2200]

Mr E said:

Ed. said:

This does actually work to some degree, the water is not burn though. Pass electric current (12v power supply) through water, oxygen will bubble off one electrode, hydrogen off the other.

And where does the power to do the electrolysis come from?

the same place as the power to make the spark. run the A/C, headlamps, tail lamps, indicators and stoplamps, stereo, charge your phone.........

[Flintstone]

Call me crazy but.........repost?

[speedy_thrills]

Yes...but just ask anybody working at R&D at a car company, hydrogen fuel cells are the way forward . Allegedly.

And people who buy these kits deserve to be conned, it's not water injection.

[hairykrishna]

odyssey2200 said:

the same place as the power to make the spark. run the A/C, headlamps, tail lamps, indicators and stoplamps, stereo, charge your phone.........

The extra load on the alternator is greater than the gain from burning the hydrogen. Basically it would be a complicated way to make your car less efficient.

[odyssey2200]

hairykrishna said:

odyssey2200 said:

the same place as the power to make the spark. run the A/C, headlamps, tail lamps, indicators and stoplamps, stereo, charge your phone.........

The extra load on the alternator is greater than the gain from burning the hydrogen. Basically it would be a complicated way to make your car less efficient.

HD lamps?