Cars that were supposed to be good but just aren't
Discussion
I think you need to define what is wrong with the cars you have selected.
For starters there are two distinct Clio V6s the mk1 and 2. The Second was supposed to be well sorted, reasonably quick and incredibly engaging to drive.
The E36 M3. Did you know that there are a few different types? The original 3.0, the Evo and I think there was a GT variant, so which was no good and why?
All Alpinas are rubbish? That's a joke surely? Have you driven an E34 B10 Bi Turbo? Or an E28 B9?
Interesting idea for a thread but it needs some justifications.
For starters there are two distinct Clio V6s the mk1 and 2. The Second was supposed to be well sorted, reasonably quick and incredibly engaging to drive.
The E36 M3. Did you know that there are a few different types? The original 3.0, the Evo and I think there was a GT variant, so which was no good and why?
All Alpinas are rubbish? That's a joke surely? Have you driven an E34 B10 Bi Turbo? Or an E28 B9?
Interesting idea for a thread but it needs some justifications.
interloper said:
I think you need to define what is wrong with the cars you have selected.
For starters there are two distinct Clio V6s the mk1 and 2. The Second was supposed to be well sorted, reasonably quick and incredibly engaging to drive.
The E36 M3. Did you know that there are a few different types? The original 3.0, the Evo and I think there was a GT variant, so which was no good and why?
All Alpinas are rubbish? That's a joke surely? Have you driven an E34 B10 Bi Turbo? Or an E28 B9?
Interesting idea for a thread but it needs some justifications.
Agree, I have heard some amazing write ups of CSL m3's for instance. For starters there are two distinct Clio V6s the mk1 and 2. The Second was supposed to be well sorted, reasonably quick and incredibly engaging to drive.
The E36 M3. Did you know that there are a few different types? The original 3.0, the Evo and I think there was a GT variant, so which was no good and why?
All Alpinas are rubbish? That's a joke surely? Have you driven an E34 B10 Bi Turbo? Or an E28 B9?
Interesting idea for a thread but it needs some justifications.
sleep envy said:
Lord Snot said:
jackal said:
(current RS4 excluded perhaps)
WTF!"Excluded prehaps"?! Sorry but my parents have a RS4 estate (B7) and I can assure you it's f
king awesome.So to answer your original question, it should probably be the other way round.
Either way I really like old 911's.. although I wouldn't mind that 993 of yours!
Edited by Lord Snot on Sunday 16th November 17:25
jackal said:
Audi RS-anything (current RS4 excluded perhaps)
BMW M3 E46
BMW M3 E36
Porsche 996
Civic TR (latest shape)
360 modena
Clio V6
Anything alpina
all Golfs after mkii
all peugeots after the 306 Rallye
any additions ?
Pretty much all of those cars received massive praise when they came out. I would never trust a Peugeot though after what me and at least 4 other people I know have experienced. BMW M3 E46
BMW M3 E36
Porsche 996
Civic TR (latest shape)
360 modena
Clio V6
Anything alpina
all Golfs after mkii
all peugeots after the 306 Rallye
any additions ?
tomTVR said:
jackal said:
Audi RS-anything (current RS4 excluded perhaps)
BMW M3 E46
BMW M3 E36
Porsche 996
Civic TR (latest shape)
360 modena
Clio V6
Anything alpina
all Golfs after mkii
all peugeots after the 306 Rallye
Are you on crack? Just wondering. BMW M3 E46
BMW M3 E36
Porsche 996
Civic TR (latest shape)
360 modena
Clio V6
Anything alpina
all Golfs after mkii
all peugeots after the 306 Rallye
)
ian_c_uk said:
I'd disagree about the 996... possibly not the "best 911 ever" but a fine drive nonetheless, and I've only driven carrera 2's on track (one was a tip cabrio ffs, and I still enjoyed it)
The styling on the 996 is not liked by purist 911 fans and it was the first 911 to go water cooled so again the purists dont like it. however as a car it had the most sorted chassis of any porsche before it
Even Jeremy Clarkson (who hates 911s) said the turbo was a superb car with a properly sorted chassis.
so actually it was as good (if not better) than it was supposed to be, it sold in huge numbers compared to previous models and could be considered something of a success.
The 997 is supposed to be even better..
Yes the styling is sorted and I am told it is more comfortable than a 996.
but some of the issues the 996 did suffer with have not been fixed in the 997, is it better car? the jury is still out on that one.
Nev
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