Picking up my car tomorrow - but it's dark
Picking up my car tomorrow - but it's dark
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Pulse

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10,922 posts

248 months

Monday 17th November 2008
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A bit of an odd one, I know, but anyway...

I've had some work done on my car, and I'm picking up tomorrow, but by the time I get there, it'll be dark. Would it be unreasonable to get them to sign something to say that I could not inspect the work or any accidental damage whilst in their care, due to the lack of light?

john_p

7,073 posts

280 months

Monday 17th November 2008
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Ask to inspect it in the workshop under artificial light - you'll be able to see a lot better than daylight anyway.


Pulse

Original Poster:

10,922 posts

248 months

Monday 17th November 2008
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john_p said:
Ask to inspect it in the workshop under artificial light - you'll be able to see a lot better than daylight anyway.
I'll try to do that - Just that I'm picking it up at 5.20pm, and they close at 5.30pm. Also, I'm concerned that I won't notice a problem with the car until I drive it away - exactly the reason I'm in this position.

TimmyHolland

661 posts

225 months

Monday 17th November 2008
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Perfectly fair to ask to inspect it inside their workshop under artificiial light, would barely take 10 minutes if there is nothing wrong. If you're paying a pretty penny for said work then, don't hesitate.

T.

Pulse

Original Poster:

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Monday 17th November 2008
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TimmyHolland said:
Perfectly fair to ask to inspect it inside their workshop under artificiial light, would barely take 10 minutes if there is nothing wrong. If you're paying a pretty penny for said work then, don't hesitate.

T.
Ok, now my only concern would be that I don't notice a fault until I get home. What recourse have I got then? (Probably nothing)

TimmyHolland

661 posts

225 months

Monday 17th November 2008
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Probably not if you've inspected it infront of them. Is there a lot of work done or are you just a bit paranoid?

john_p

7,073 posts

280 months

Monday 17th November 2008
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TimmyHolland said:
Probably not if you've inspected it infront of them. Is there a lot of work done or are you just a bit paranoid?
I think you'd still have recourse under the sale of goods/services acts surely?

It would just be a matter of proving it.. I took a car back following a respray at a BMW main dealer the next morning and they were happy to correct.

Pulse

Original Poster:

10,922 posts

248 months

Monday 17th November 2008
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TimmyHolland said:
Probably not if you've inspected it infront of them. Is there a lot of work done or are you just a bit paranoid?
I'm just paranoid. They've had the car for a week, which normally equals curbed alloys, dings, scratches, scrapes, etc, that weren't there before.

It's actually in there for a respray of the bonnet though.

Balmoral Green

42,561 posts

278 months

Monday 17th November 2008
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You really do need to see the car properly in daylight, or properly indoors with decent lighting. These are your only two options IMO, so you need to arrange it somehow.

Getting them to sign to say you've not inspected it is hardly fair, anything can happen between the moment you drive it away and get an opportunity to have a proper look at it. It's not so much that they won't take responsibility for something that they were responsible for, but a disclaimer like that equally leaves them wide open to take responsibility for something that they weren't responsible for too.


Pulse said:
They've had the car for a week, which normally equals curbed alloys, dings, scratches, scrapes, etc, that weren't there before.
You should insist on an inspection sheet/walkaround before you leave it with them then. So both parties know what was/wasn't there to start off with. Wish I had a quid for every mark that was there to start off with, but punter claimed otherwise smile

Pulse

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Monday 17th November 2008
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Balmoral Green said:
You really do need to see the car properly in daylight, or properly indoors with decent lighting. These are your only two options IMO, so you need to arrange it somehow.

Getting them to sign to say you've not inspected it is hardly fair, anything can happen between the moment you drive it away and get an opportunity to have a proper look at it. It's not so much that they won't take responsibility for something that they were responsible for, but a disclaimer like that equally leaves them wide open to take responsibility for something that they weren't responsible for too.


Pulse said:
They've had the car for a week, which normally equals curbed alloys, dings, scratches, scrapes, etc, that weren't there before.
You should insist on an inspection sheet/walkaround before you leave it with them then. So both parties know what was/wasn't there to start off with. Wish I had a quid for every mark that was there to start off with, but punter claimed otherwise smile
Unfortunately, I thought of this afterwards! I know they only have my word, but the car was spotless (not even a ding or a stone chip) when it went in. But then I'm very careful with my cars, and it's only 2 months old.

Pulse

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Tuesday 18th November 2008
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Hmmm, just to add to my paranoia, they've called to say it won't be ready today (they've had it 5 working days now), as it has FAILED the quality check.

Now that puts two thoughts in my mind...

1. The quality can't be very good, if their OWN quality check picked up poor painting

Or, which I think is more likely...

2. They've damaged the car in some way, and are trying to bodge it back together in the extra day.

Crusoe

4,124 posts

261 months

Tuesday 18th November 2008
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worth stopping by for an unannounced check if it's not too far out of your way. Might just be they knew you were a fussy type so had a look over it and realised it wasn't up to the right standard or could be they dented or damaged something and have to get it fixed before they give it back.

smutbag

1,705 posts

220 months

Tuesday 18th November 2008
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They've allowed the junior to test out his new found driving skills in it and he's pranged it into a Volvo, which is of course fine, but you'rs is fecked.

Now they are desperately trying to fix it and 'Dave' is back on the teas.

Mc Lovin

5,588 posts

251 months

Tuesday 18th November 2008
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smutbag said:
They've allowed the junior to test out his new found driving skills in it and he's pranged it into a Volvo, which is of course fine, but you'rs is fecked.

Now they are desperately trying to fix it and 'Dave' is back on the teas.
Funny, thats exactly what i was thinking yes

Pulse

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10,922 posts

248 months

Tuesday 18th November 2008
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Hmmm, it's too late to go there now. They shut at 5.30pm. What should I do?

EngJock

21,785 posts

216 months

Tuesday 18th November 2008
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Pulse said:
Hmmm, it's too late to go there now. They shut at 5.30pm. What should I do?
Try to stop worrying about it and, if there is a problem when you do receive it, grow a pair and do something about it.

HTH

Pulse

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Tuesday 18th November 2008
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EngJock said:
Pulse said:
Hmmm, it's too late to go there now. They shut at 5.30pm. What should I do?
Try to stop worrying about it and, if there is a problem when you do receive it, grow a pair and do something about it.

HTH
That isn't my issue. It's if something has been repaired, and I can't tell at this stage, but at a later stage becomes a problem. (And the inevitable 'it wasnt us' if I do point out a problem)

john_p

7,073 posts

280 months

Tuesday 18th November 2008
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If they'd driven it into a tree then they wouldn't have said "it failed the quality check" as this is more likely to make you paranoid and investigate every area with a microscope.

They would have said "the guy was off sick/we are awaiting parts/we had a power cut" or something.

You should be glad they are good enough to check it before releasing it back to you instead of "oh he won't notice, it'll be dark when he gets it anyway"

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

279 months

Tuesday 18th November 2008
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Mines going in tomorrow, till friday eve. I'm telling them when I drop it off that it's subject to a before and after project on a car website. Should keep them on their toes biggrin

Pulse

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Tuesday 18th November 2008
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john_p said:
If they'd driven it into a tree then they wouldn't have said "it failed the quality check" as this is more likely to make you paranoid and investigate every area with a microscope.

They would have said "the guy was off sick/we are awaiting parts/we had a power cut" or something.

You should be glad they are good enough to check it before releasing it back to you instead of "oh he won't notice, it'll be dark when he gets it anyway"
Hmm, do you think? I think it's the perfect thing to tell me, since there's sod all I can do about it, and it projects that they are all about quality. So, average Joe would just say "Oh, that's brilliant, thank you for making sure it's perfect for me", rather than thinking what I've thought, and considering that they've possibly damaged it. Unfortunately, I can't get any time out of work tomorrow to go and check it out.