passing an emergency services vehicle - lights ablaze
passing an emergency services vehicle - lights ablaze
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ukwill

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10,184 posts

236 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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Weird isn't it? Passed an ambulance on the m-way on a deserted piece of the M3 on Sat night/Sun morn. Felt strange overtaking when it had its blues/two's flashing. Should I hand myself in?

f-fuxake

1,813 posts

278 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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They don't use two tones on motorways do they?

illmonkey

19,814 posts

227 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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f-fuxake said:
They don't use two tones on motorways do they?
He meant the lights.

Depends, if you were doing 70MPH then it's fine, if you were doing 120MPH probably not so good...

They could have had a patient in the ambulance so didn't want to go too fast to chuck them about?

Edited by illmonkey on Monday 28th September 08:37

off_again

13,917 posts

263 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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It gets me with fire engines - they are geared to hit a maximum of around 60-70MPH depending on load. So when a fire engine is on the motorway, its amazing to see everyone holding back and not overtaking. Ok, it might be going to an accident on the motorway itself, but equally it might be using the motorway to go a couple of junctions down. Its not as if the firemen on board are going to call the police if you happen to go past at 75MPH....

Sushi

858 posts

229 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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When I ruptured a disc and had to take a trip in the ambulance they had the lights etc but would not go very fast in case they did any more damage.

Dupont666

22,887 posts

221 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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have overtaken a few fire engines on the M1, all within the limits.

Nearly everytime the fire truck is doing 65ish and everyone is packed behind it.... cue me blasting past at 75mph (feels fast due to the massive 10mph difference) at that point everyone else realises thats its actually ok (until someone on here tells me differently) to overtake it, even with the blue lights going, cue everyone else scrabbling to get to the outside lane....

Must point out that all of the trucks have not being going to motorway accidents and I have been fortunate not to look at cock as they overtake me back a mile or so later at the accident.

off_again

13,917 posts

263 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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Sushi said:
When I ruptured a disc and had to take a trip in the ambulance they had the lights etc but would not go very fast in case they did any more damage.
On a reverse side of this, followed an ambulance that was taking my wife to hospital as an emergency - we were hitting 105MPH with ease and I was a little surprised! Put the willies up me though, just how much of a serious situation was this?

illmonkey

19,814 posts

227 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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off_again said:
Sushi said:
When I ruptured a disc and had to take a trip in the ambulance they had the lights etc but would not go very fast in case they did any more damage.
On a reverse side of this, followed an ambulance that was taking my wife to hospital as an emergency - we were hitting 105MPH with ease and I was a little surprised! Put the willies up me though, just how much of a serious situation was this?
To drive you must have go through their advanced driving. If they need to, they can break the limit, as long as the risk to the patient isn't high (such as above with the slipped disc).

Engineer1

10,486 posts

238 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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Remember the blue lights are to clear a route, the speed they choose is going to be dictated by what the patient can take, no point blitzing it at 100+ if it harms the patient, go slower and they may be able to continue treatment.

patmahe

5,919 posts

233 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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I wouldn't overtake an emergency vehicle, with its lights on. It just goes against my instincts, I suppose its a fear of causing any kind of obstruction to them, however unlikely. It will in all probablility be a brief delay to me if any at all.

ukwill

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10,184 posts

236 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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patmahe said:
I wouldn't overtake an emergency vehicle, with its lights on. It just goes against my instincts, I suppose its a fear of causing any kind of obstruction to them, however unlikely. It will in all probablility be a brief delay to me if any at all.
On an empty 3-lane motorway, about 1am on a Sat night/Sun morn? you'd sit behind it for fear of obstructing it?

hmm. mkay.

GTIR

24,741 posts

295 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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Fire trucks and ambulances are pretty slow to start with, particulary fire trucks if they come on at a junction and will take till the next junction to get to 70!

It could be worse, numpties could slow down for highways agency vehicles or any vehicle with any remotely refective material anywhere! Oh they do.

hehe

patmahe

5,919 posts

233 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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ukwill said:
patmahe said:
I wouldn't overtake an emergency vehicle, with its lights on. It just goes against my instincts, I suppose its a fear of causing any kind of obstruction to them, however unlikely. It will in all probablility be a brief delay to me if any at all.
On an empty 3-lane motorway, about 1am on a Sat night/Sun morn? you'd sit behind it for fear of obstructing it?

hmm. mkay.
Not saying what you did was wrong, and couldn't say for certain what I'd do at 1.am on a deserted motorway as I've never been in that situation. I'm just saying that my instinct on seeing an emergency vehicle with lights on is to let them get on with their business, then when they are gone out of my way I'll proceed.

Maybe if I was stuck behind them in your situation for several miles, I'd consider an overtake, but if I was only held up for a short while I think I'd just relax and not let it bother me.

illmonkey

19,814 posts

227 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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patmahe said:
ukwill said:
patmahe said:
I wouldn't overtake an emergency vehicle, with its lights on. It just goes against my instincts, I suppose its a fear of causing any kind of obstruction to them, however unlikely. It will in all probablility be a brief delay to me if any at all.
On an empty 3-lane motorway, about 1am on a Sat night/Sun morn? you'd sit behind it for fear of obstructing it?

hmm. mkay.
Not saying what you did was wrong, and couldn't say for certain what I'd do at 1.am on a deserted motorway as I've never been in that situation. I'm just saying that my instinct on seeing an emergency vehicle with lights on is to let them get on with their business, then when they are gone out of my way I'll proceed.

Maybe if I was stuck behind them in your situation for several miles, I'd consider an overtake, but if I was only held up for a short while I think I'd just relax and not let it bother me.
But how is you going past them on a motorway going to stop them doing what they want? Short of you pulling infront on them and slowing them down. If they decide to speed up, they can pass you no problem.


Cheeky Jim

1,276 posts

309 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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Of course on an empty motorway, you give it some space and drive past it. Not as if you are going to cause any issue.

If it's busy, then you are just getting in the way of the vehicle and/or giving him something else to worry about..i.e. having to look both forward for gaps in the traffic and backwards for people trying to get somewhere 1 minute earlier.

ukwill

Original Poster:

10,184 posts

236 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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patmahe said:
ukwill said:
patmahe said:
I wouldn't overtake an emergency vehicle, with its lights on. It just goes against my instincts, I suppose its a fear of causing any kind of obstruction to them, however unlikely. It will in all probablility be a brief delay to me if any at all.
On an empty 3-lane motorway, about 1am on a Sat night/Sun morn? you'd sit behind it for fear of obstructing it?

hmm. mkay.
Not saying what you did was wrong, and couldn't say for certain what I'd do at 1.am on a deserted motorway as I've never been in that situation. I'm just saying that my instinct on seeing an emergency vehicle with lights on is to let them get on with their business, then when they are gone out of my way I'll proceed.

Maybe if I was stuck behind them in your situation for several miles, I'd consider an overtake, but if I was only held up for a short while I think I'd just relax and not let it bother me.
Yes - that's kind of why I posted I think. I thought it "felt wrong/weird", but I wasn't going to be sat behind an ambulance at 69mph (your honour), for however long it was going to be on the m-way!

Munter

31,331 posts

270 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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I've gone past them before now. But when I pulled off at the next junction I left plenty of space between me and the end of the queue at the roundabout. Which the fireengine then used to get past me without trouble.

Mind you they still couldn't get past the retards in front who as usual think if you see a fire engine/ambulance you should stay stationary... muppets.

HellDiver

5,708 posts

211 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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GTIR said:
Fire trucks and ambulances are pretty slow to start with, particulary fire trucks if they come on at a junction and will take till the next junction to get to 70!
The Supercharged Volvos they use here can get to 70 an awful lot quicker than that.

rgracin

607 posts

241 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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off_again said:
Sushi said:
When I ruptured a disc and had to take a trip in the ambulance they had the lights etc but would not go very fast in case they did any more damage.
On a reverse side of this, followed an ambulance that was taking my wife to hospital as an emergency - we were hitting 105MPH with ease and I was a little surprised! Put the willies up me though, just how much of a serious situation was this?
I followed the ambulance when it took my wife to hospital (complications when in labour). They told me to follow in my car, then, after negotiating some traffic (nothing dangerous, and no red lights), stopped, and told me I wasn't allowed to follow them through the traffic!!! I was not happy. He stopped to tell me off in a so called emergency. I was happy to take the chance if the BIB took issue.

Didn't get to the hospital in time and my son was born in the back of the ambulance at the side of the road! Mother and baby were fine.

illmonkey

19,814 posts

227 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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HellDiver said:
GTIR said:
Fire trucks and ambulances are pretty slow to start with, particulary fire trucks if they come on at a junction and will take till the next junction to get to 70!
The Supercharged Volvos they use here can get to 70 an awful lot quicker than that.
He said Truck, not car...