RE: Driverless Audi TT Attempts Pikes Peak
RE: Driverless Audi TT Attempts Pikes Peak
Tuesday 27th October 2009

Driverless Audi TT Attempts Pikes Peak

Handsfree rallying - who'd have thought it



Even with the amazing machines built to ascend it, the Pikes Peak hillclimb remains known as one of the greatest challenges any driver can face. But why not just remove the pesky driver altogether?

So goes the thinking of a group of researchers from Stanford University, who are collaborating with Volkswagen to build an Audi TT that will drive itself up the Pikes Peak course, totally autonomously.

The project is the result of research being done at the lab VW has recently set up at Stanford's Californian campus to research the future of driving, but it's not the sort of gentle autonomous driving seen in ideas like Project SARTRE. The car being used here is based on an Audi TT-S, and is designed to run at full rally pace.


The car has already been tested at full-pelt at the Bonneville Salt Flats - presumably due to its attractive lack of things to bump into - but the project will, er, peak, with a run up the twisting, undulating Pikes Peak hillclimb.

The team behind the project have released a video (shown below) of the car being tested, showing off by drawing an Audi logo in the sand. But rather more importantly, they've also included some clips of the 1987 Audi Quattro Pikes Peak rally car in action - and making noises that really shouldn't be allowed pre-watershed...





 

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crb

2,447 posts

227 months

NWVT

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2,630 posts

214 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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That is really awsome and yet semi scary and very clever too. smile
cant wait to see the finished project.
but i think the best part was the clips of the old quatro giving it some beans up the peak smile

A.S.H

116 posts

224 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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This looks very cool. I presume that you plan your journey and it does all the driving for you.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

228 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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What will be interesting is to see how multiple runs compare, to see whether it is more consistent than a human driver.

R34

13,986 posts

224 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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vintageracer01

873 posts

205 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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Impressive engineering attempt.
But that is not my kind of motoring, I am afraid!
Where is the fun???
And in future 24h-racing or rallying with noiseless electric cars and in addition without a driver or what?
GREAT perspective! banghead

You want to travel but do not want to drive?
TAKE THE TRAIN !!!

I prefer this: driving

Edited by vintageracer01 on Tuesday 27th October 14:26

EDLT

15,421 posts

236 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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These are the people that won the Grand Challenge Robotic car race:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6101798.stm


BoRED S2upid

21,078 posts

270 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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Geeks should think of better things to do with their time. Like creating a cheap robot for everyones home that can cook clean and iron and get me a beer in the evening.

Turbobanana

8,495 posts

231 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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Very cool, but how quick can it do the 'Ring?

MitchT

17,157 posts

239 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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BoRED S2upid said:
Geeks should think of better things to do with their time. Like creating a cheap robot for everyones home that can cook clean and iron and get me a beer in the evening.
They did already. It's called W.I.F.E. (Wash, Iron F**k, Etc.) hehe

Neil_C

61 posts

261 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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Imagine approaching the hairpin bend at 90 mph with a sheer drop to the side. Just as the car enters the braking zone the on board screen turns blue and the message appears 'Microsoft Windows for Cars - an unexpected error in an unknown file has occurred, Windows is closing down. Please contact your system administrator once you are out of intensive care.' smile

Only kiddng, I think it looks impressive and will enjoy seeing it tackle Pikes Peak.

rightwheeldrive

51 posts

211 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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Wow! Audi have actually managed to make a TT even Duller to drive! I am impressed.

JumpinJack

408 posts

208 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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sleep

Escort Si-130

3,457 posts

210 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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LMFAO, thats hillarious, I need one of them.

MitchT said:
BoRED S2upid said:
Geeks should think of better things to do with their time. Like creating a cheap robot for everyones home that can cook clean and iron and get me a beer in the evening.
They did already. It's called W.I.F.E. (Wash, Iron F**k, Etc.) hehe

4rephill

5,171 posts

208 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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So is this TT going to be going up Pikes peak at the limit of adhesion, mm's from disaster like the Quattro was?, I doubt it (and if it slids off the side of the mountain I'll Pcensoreds myself laughing!).

Frankly I can't see anything that impressive about a computer and gps navigation driving up a mountain in this day and age.(unless it breaks all records for the climb however). BMW have already demonstrated this technology a couple of years ago at the Top Gear test track.

The impressive thing about the pikes peak event is that human beings push the limits of their machines and their ablilties whilst risking the ultimate sacrifice, their lives, for the honour of being the fastest up the mountain. The loss of a driver?, even if it's doing what they love?, tragic. The loss of a machine?, who cares!, just get another one!.

bobthemonkey

4,211 posts

246 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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4rephill said:
So is this TT going to be going up Pikes peak at the limit of adhesion, mm's from disaster like the Quattro was?, I doubt it (and if it slids off the side of the mountain I'll Pcensoreds myself laughing!).

Frankly I can't see anything that impressive about a computer and gps navigation driving up a mountain in this day and age.(unless it breaks all records for the climb however). BMW have already demonstrated this technology a couple of years ago at the Top Gear test track.

The impressive thing about the pikes peak event is that human beings push the limits of their machines and their ablilties whilst risking the ultimate sacrifice, their lives, for the honour of being the fastest up the mountain. The loss of a driver?, even if it's doing what they love?, tragic. The loss of a machine?, who cares!, just get another one!.
Big difference; the BMW is essentially programmed; you have to teach it the track.

The Stanford Audi is autonomous; it can any run, in changeable conditions, in areas it has never seen before. It can respond to traffic, pedestrians and road signs. The tach is frankly pretty bloody special.


VTECMatt

1,373 posts

268 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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As great as it is, where do you put your luggage?

Joking aside this is the future, great for people who can't afford a chauffeur or who don't enjoy driving, which is the majority of people.

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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4rephill said:
Frankly I can't see anything that impressive about a computer and gps navigation driving up a mountain in this day and age
oh dear. suggest you do some reading up on this teams acheivements. their previous cars can 'see' and respond accordingly, like take avoiding action from other moving cars and people. judging by the sensors on the roof of this tt it is not just using gps. this is the cutting edge... if they intend to drive it at all fast, on a loose surface, the control/feedback systems will be pretty remarkable.

look up darpa grand challenge... the tech is being sponsored by the us military for autonomous supply lines

Edited by fbrs on Tuesday 27th October 15:29

bobthemonkey

4,211 posts

246 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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VTECMatt said:
As great as it is, where do you put your luggage?

Joking aside this is the future, great for people who can't afford a chauffeur or who don't enjoy driving, which is the majority of people.
Remote supply delivery in dangerous, exploding places like Afghanistan, mine clearance in similar nasty places, 24 hour mining activity, robotic exploration and construction on the Moon and Mars where telepresence suffers from too much lag are just a few of the talked about applications for this technology.

hairykrishna

14,528 posts

233 months

Tuesday 27th October 2009
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4rephill said:
Frankly I can't see anything that impressive about a computer and gps navigation driving up a mountain in this day and age.(unless it breaks all records for the climb however). BMW have already demonstrated this technology a couple of years ago at the Top Gear test track.
You should watch the documentary about the Darpa grand challenge (I think it was PBS). The tech in the winners is on an entirely different level from that BMW PR stunt.