Daihatsu - Fourtrak vs. Sportrak?

Daihatsu - Fourtrak vs. Sportrak?

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paddyhasneeds

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Wednesday 20th January 2010
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Does anyone know what the differences are please? Still struggling like fk to find a small cheap reliable 4x4 so I'm expanding the options...

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

225 months

Wednesday 20th January 2010
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paddyhasneeds said:
Does anyone know what the differences are please? Still struggling like fk to find a small cheap reliable 4x4 so I'm expanding the options...
fourtrak diesel and good off road

sportrak petrol and not so good off road

paddyhasneeds

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Wednesday 20th January 2010
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i.e. night and day.. oops.. biggrin

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

222 months

Wednesday 20th January 2010
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Fourtrak is bigger and has a 2.8 4 pot Diesel and 2 extra seats in the rear.

Sport trak is Vitara sized with a 1600 IIRC petrol amd no extra seats

carsounds_dan

200 posts

196 months

Wednesday 20th January 2010
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I've got a sportrak for mucking about on the farm etc. it's great fun, if you go for one make sure it's fuel injected.

For articulation etc then get the fourtrak.

They rust in the rear arches and on the rear chassis rails.. take a screwdriver with you and poke about.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

217 months

Wednesday 20th January 2010
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Fourtrak its basically the japanese version of a landrover defender 90

But damn near unbreakable so its a farmers favorite


paddyhasneeds

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Thursday 21st January 2010
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Presumably the fuel injected model is the ELXi?

I think the Fourtrak may be a little overkill as most seem to be 7 seaters, however the Sportrak looks interesting, though all the ones within a sensible distance seem to suffer from lairy colours and decals.

I've said this on various threads but it's bloody grim how few sensible priced, non-shed, small 4x4's seem to be on the market right now.

matt21

4,347 posts

217 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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got a 2 seater original tidy fourtrak for sale soon if you are tempted wink

paddyhasneeds

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Thursday 21st January 2010
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matt21 said:
got a 2 seater original tidy fourtrak for sale soon if you are tempted wink
Possibly - have to admit I'm looking for something in bloody good nick (I never know what "tidy" really means in ads smile) but feel free to drop me a PM with any info/pics as your profile suggests you're in the rough area.

pits

6,593 posts

203 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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Both of them always seemed a tad overpriced in my eyes for what they are.

OnlyMX5ives

1,142 posts

205 months

Thursday 21st January 2010
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paddyhasneeds said:
I've said this on various threads but it's bloody grim how few sensible priced, non-shed, small 4x4's seem to be on the market right now.
I thought the opposite when I was looking.

I was shocked that you can get any number of 'soft roaders' for under £750.

Pajaros seem cheap for what they are, with decent ones from £1500 etc

What is your budget ?

HellDiver

5,708 posts

195 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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The older leaf-sprung Fourtrak has a 2.4 non-turbo engine, which is considerably more reliable and not much slower than the 2.8TD. Better for offroading too.

irish boy

3,752 posts

249 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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sportrak is a 1.6 petrol....the later ones are injection 94 bhp the early ones are carb around 80 bhp. there lively enough 0-60 around 12, and will comfortably pull an indicated 100. my grandad had 4 in a row the last one being a 93 elxi top of the range, been lying in one of our fields since he died in '99 with 23k on it. sad really, i always did mean to put it back on the road but its probably to late now.

pretty much bomb proof apart from electric window motors which are crap. daihatsu main dealers couldn't supply one in the 90's so the chances of getting one now is very slim indeed. we ended up having to jam ours up.

sorry dont know much about fourtraks.

Edited by irish boy on Friday 22 January 11:35

paddyhasneeds

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Friday 22nd January 2010
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OnlyMX5ives said:
paddyhasneeds said:
I've said this on various threads but it's bloody grim how few sensible priced, non-shed, small 4x4's seem to be on the market right now.
I thought the opposite when I was looking.

I was shocked that you can get any number of 'soft roaders' for under £750.

Pajaros seem cheap for what they are, with decent ones from £1500 etc

What is your budget ?
Ideally £2-3k. Should be going to look at a Pinin and Fourtrak this weekend - the Fourtrak is an R plate 2.8 TDL-SE - I need to get an idea what physical size one is.

Any info on what to look for beyond the bleeding obvious would be appreciated!

MartG

21,654 posts

217 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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paddyhasneeds said:
I've said this on various threads but it's bloody grim how few sensible priced, non-shed, small 4x4's seem to be on the market right now.
I think a lot of folk are hanging on to them after the recent snow, just in case we get some more. For many they've realised that the cost of keeping a cheap 4x4 is outweighed by not losing wages due to the ability to get into work in severe weather conditions

ooo000ooo

2,627 posts

207 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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paddyhasneeds said:
Presumably the fuel injected model is the ELXi?

I think the Fourtrak may be a little overkill as most seem to be 7 seaters, .
The extra 2 seats in the boot are little more than jump seats fitted to either side , IIRC they don't come with seat belts either although that may have just been the one i looked at which may have had the seats fitted later as you can fit lap belts to them.

durbster

11,193 posts

235 months

Friday 22nd January 2010
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paddyhasneeds said:
Ideally £2-3k. Should be going to look at a Pinin and Fourtrak this weekend - the Fourtrak is an R plate 2.8 TDL-SE - I need to get an idea what physical size one is.

Any info on what to look for beyond the bleeding obvious would be appreciated!
I think there are short and long wheelbase versions but even so, I've looked round a couple and they're tiny relative to most 4x4s. More Freelander size than Range Rover. A lot of space inside though.

As you know I've been looking at similar vehicles and the biggest problem I can see with the Fourtrak is rust, and the fact they've almost all been used for towing stuff (normally horses!), so the running gear's probably had a harder life than the mileage might suggest. Having said that they seem quite capable of towing so I don't know how critical that is.

From what I've read, the Sportrak doesn't have the fundamental strength to be a proper off-roader and isn't really good enough in other areas to make it worth considering.

paddyhasneeds

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Friday 22nd January 2010
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durbster said:
paddyhasneeds said:
Ideally £2-3k. Should be going to look at a Pinin and Fourtrak this weekend - the Fourtrak is an R plate 2.8 TDL-SE - I need to get an idea what physical size one is.

Any info on what to look for beyond the bleeding obvious would be appreciated!
I think there are short and long wheelbase versions but even so, I've looked round a couple and they're tiny relative to most 4x4s. More Freelander size than Range Rover. A lot of space inside though.

As you know I've been looking at similar vehicles and the biggest problem I can see with the Fourtrak is rust, and the fact they've almost all been used for towing stuff (normally horses!), so the running gear's probably had a harder life than the mileage might suggest. Having said that they seem quite capable of towing so I don't know how critical that is.

From what I've read, the Sportrak doesn't have the fundamental strength to be a proper off-roader and isn't really good enough in other areas to make it worth considering.
Yes the dealer I spoke to today made the comment that "We sell a lot of Fourtrak's to Pig Farmers" .

OllieWinchester

5,687 posts

205 months

Saturday 23rd January 2010
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I was under the impression they were very similar vehicles, apart from seating and engine size. How can the Sportrak be worse off road if they are fundamentally the same?

Tangent Police

3,097 posts

189 months

Saturday 23rd January 2010
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Daihatsu - Fourtrak vs. Sportrak?

Leperwagon vs Gypowagon (around here)

Get a fricking suzuki SJ for god's sake. They are still cheap if you look.