RE: Mazda Design Boss Keen To Bring Back RX-7
RE: Mazda Design Boss Keen To Bring Back RX-7
Wednesday 10th March 2010

Mazda Design Boss Keen To Bring Back RX-7

Ikuo Maeda cites sportiness as a top priority



There's been speculation for a while now that Mazda will bring back the RX-7 - in spirit if not in name - as the successor to the Mazda RX-8

Now Mazda's design boss - Ikuo Maeda - is helping to fan the flames.

"I do have a strong yearning to revive the RX-7 during my tenure," Maeda told US website Automotive News in a recent interview.

Maeda wasn't unequivocal, however - making it clear that Mazda is not about to launch a high-end sports car in the middle of a global economic crisis. "In order for that to happen" said Maeda, "we need the US economy to come back, first and foremost".

If anyone can revive the RX-7, however, it's Maeda - his father was also a Mazda stylist, and he created the original RX-7 back in the 1970s.

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Japcarnut

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218 posts

203 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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YES PLEASE!

A higher-powered, lightweight and perhaps twin-turbo rotary?

Would have to work on mpg however. Not that mpg is the point of these cars.


Gazado

218 posts

212 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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Well if it ever happens, which I'm pretty skeptical of, then it better look as nice as the RX7 and not as hideous and plasticy as the RX8 (ooooh controversial!!!).

davidcharles

400 posts

220 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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Gazado said:
Well if it ever happens, which I'm pretty skeptical of, then it better look as nice as the RX7 and not as hideous and plasticy as the RX8 (ooooh controversial!!!).
....the RX8 isn't as pretty as the RX7 but its hardly hideous.

RX8 is a good coupe , it could just do with a small turbo to give it a bit of mid range punch...although revving the nuts of one to 90000rpm is quite good fun..biggrin

a sleeker, turbo'd, lighter RX would be great tho....

soad

34,445 posts

202 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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Do bring it back. Pretty please.

bakerjuk

268 posts

217 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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davidcharles said:
Gazado said:
Well if it ever happens, which I'm pretty skeptical of, then it better look as nice as the RX7 and not as hideous and plasticy as the RX8 (ooooh controversial!!!).
....the RX8 isn't as pretty as the RX7 but its hardly hideous.

RX8 is a good coupe , it could just do with a small turbo to give it a bit of mid range punch...although revving the nuts of one to 90000rpm is quite good fun..biggrin

a sleeker, turbo'd, lighter RX would be great tho....
Agreed RX8 is not hideous, just a bit more of a midlife crisis car than the psuedo supercar of the rx7.. I certainly wouldn't want to rev mine to 90000 rpm...

If they could do a lower, sleeker and less practical version of the RX8 without the silly wheel arches and screw a medium sized turbo onto it to give about 300bhp then they would be onto a winner. Plus if they kept it 2 seats and limited the size (which they could do as a rotary is tiny) the weight would be kept down and emissions wouldnt be as bad.

PLEASE DO IT !!!

Black S2K

1,844 posts

275 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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Have any of you actually driven an RX-8?

It's superb. Probably the only fun-to-drive car left in its segment by a loooong way. Not like all the boring, saloon-derived alternatives.

There are plenty of aftermarket turbo or supercharge kits for it too. 300BHP is achievable.

Having said that, a close-coupled RX-7 variant would also be much appreciated! Why not both?

briancorish

186 posts

210 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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The RX-7 was one of the prettiest cars to come out of japan.
Such a shame so many of them have been chavved up.

davidcharles

400 posts

220 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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Black S2K said:
Have any of you actually driven an RX-8?

It's superb. Probably the only fun-to-drive car left in its segment by a loooong way. Not like all the boring, saloon-derived alternatives.

There are plenty of aftermarket turbo or supercharge kits for it too. 300BHP is achievable.

Having said that, a close-coupled RX-7 variant would also be much appreciated! Why not both?
..yes, i have one and it is a good coupe. Its just the chassis can handle a lot more power and its a shame it wasn't turbo'd...would have made the aftemarket scene much better as well.

renrut

1,478 posts

231 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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I can't see what the difference between an RX-7 coming back and just doing a new RX-8? Or have I missed the point.

Both were 2+2 (the RX-8 is really a proper 4 seater), both had twin rotor engines giving 1.3 capacity, both were quite pretty (yup I like em both).

The RX-8 addressed some of the mpg concerns of the 7 but lets face it until it can do diesel like economy it'll always be stuck with the stigma. In the current climate (no pun intended) that will be a big decider. I know people don't buy that kind of car, but if it pushes it into a higher company car tax bracket then it'll not be doing itself any favours.

Any engine bods know if turbo-ing it will help its mpg case, I was lead to believe its inherent in the rotary design? frown

Lione1 Richie

173 posts

209 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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davidcharles said:
Black S2K said:
Have any of you actually driven an RX-8?

It's superb. Probably the only fun-to-drive car left in its segment by a loooong way. Not like all the boring, saloon-derived alternatives.

There are plenty of aftermarket turbo or supercharge kits for it too. 300BHP is achievable.

Having said that, a close-coupled RX-7 variant would also be much appreciated! Why not both?
..yes, i have one and it is a good coupe. Its just the chassis can handle a lot more power and its a shame it wasn't turbo'd...would have made the aftemarket scene much better as well.
So supercharge it. Plenty available.

Colvette

844 posts

273 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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Huh? Bring back the RX-7, but call it something else (RX-9?) Surely that's just what the RX-8 is? It's a 2+2 coupe with a rotary engine? I seem to have missed the point...?

briSk

14,291 posts

252 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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Colvette said:
Huh? Bring back the RX-7, but call it something else (RX-9?) Surely that's just what the RX-8 is? It's a 2+2 coupe with a rotary engine? I seem to have missed the point...?
i rather though the same..!

______

if they want it to sell then they'll have to finally give up on the wankel.

my dad would have bought one (as would many others) if it had a 'normal' engine. my mate will not have another because it had a wankel. he thought it was amazing (whilst it lasted). i now couldn;t risk it. okay so they last better than the rx7 motors but still. it's great for 'real rotory enthusiasts' but for normal people crap fuel and oil economy and dodgy reliability aren;t worth the risk.

alas.

TASS

39,731 posts

310 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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Maybe they mean a revamp of the RX7.....like the new MX5

vz-r_dave

3,469 posts

244 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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briSk said:
Colvette said:
Huh? Bring back the RX-7, but call it something else (RX-9?) Surely that's just what the RX-8 is? It's a 2+2 coupe with a rotary engine? I seem to have missed the point...?
i rather though the same..!

______

if they want it to sell then they'll have to finally give up on the wankel.

my dad would have bought one (as would many others) if it had a 'normal' engine. my mate will not have another because it had a wankel. he thought it was amazing (whilst it lasted). i now couldn;t risk it. okay so they last better than the rx7 motors but still. it's great for 'real rotory enthusiasts' but for normal people crap fuel and oil economy and dodgy reliability aren;t worth the risk.

alas.
What are you basing the dodgy reliability on? I had one, my brother has had two and has had no problems bar them being old.

The heart and soul of the RX7 is a the Rotary, drop that and you loose a lot of the appeal imo.

cocopop

1,300 posts

231 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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briSk said:
Colvette said:
Huh? Bring back the RX-7, but call it something else (RX-9?) Surely that's just what the RX-8 is? It's a 2+2 coupe with a rotary engine? I seem to have missed the point...?
i rather though the same..!

______

if they want it to sell then they'll have to finally give up on the wankel.

my dad would have bought one (as would many others) if it had a 'normal' engine. my mate will not have another because it had a wankel. he thought it was amazing (whilst it lasted). i now couldn;t risk it. okay so they last better than the rx7 motors but still. it's great for 'real rotory enthusiasts' but for normal people crap fuel and oil economy and dodgy reliability aren;t worth the risk.

alas.
My RX7 has been the most reliable car I've ever owned.

Fuel economy is a bit st, but hey ho, it's worth it.

thehardman07

272 posts

207 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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My father had an rx-8 for 2 years. Although it was good looking and fun to rev the nuts off, i thought it lacked the quality and low/mid range punch of the audi tt he had previously.

I did manage a full 360 spin in the rx-8 mind with the tried and tested 'over enthusiastic entry speed/wet roundabout combo'. And although we cheated near certain death, my girlfriend failed to see the funny side.

briSk

14,291 posts

252 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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vz-r_dave said:
What are you basing the dodgy reliability on? I had one, my brother has had two and has had no problems bar them being old.

my mate and a colleague of his and my wife's colleague
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wife's colleague:
kept running hot and stalling in traffic. didn't wait to find out what was up with it and went back to a 'dull' bmw

mate's colleague:
something up with the rear diff (don;t know what) and really used a lot of oil even more than my mates (which i think was the par for the course' level). to be fair he seemed an arse so maybe he caught the rear wheel on a kerb or something and it was his own fault - i don't know.

and my mate's:
owned from c10k miles. garaged. really looked after. main stealerr serviced from an alleged mps specialist dealer. always warmed through etc. got to 50k miles wouldn't ever start turned out to be a complete lack of compression. quite possibly a rebuild (2k on an rx7 right) but advised new motor... decided to cut and run...

briSk

14,291 posts

252 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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oh and by way of contrast i have thus far needed a new engine mount and a new thermostat on my bini over the same time. that's bad enough and it's only the wker dealer i really have a problem with rather than the car..!

Twincam16

27,647 posts

284 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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This would be the simplest thing in the world for Mazda to do - just plonk a new 2-door coupe body and a turbocharger on an RX-8.

I do like Mazda, they're a sort-of Japanese Alfa Romeo/Peugeot-be-re-they-went-rubbish/what-MG-should-be-aiming-to-be.

briSk

14,291 posts

252 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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btw don't get me wrong i love the car. it's with this knowledge.. i'd struggle.

it's annoying because it proved my dad right...!