Mitsubishi L200 or Toyota Hilux
Discussion
Hi Guys,
Need to get a new car for work, but will also be my car for leisure time as well. Always wanted a pick up truck, and will be much easier putting all my equipment in the back of one of those, instead of the seats down in the back of my fiesta!
Narrowed it down to the L200 and Hilux. I drove a Hilux for six months last year at work, but seemed to be seriously underpowered (was the 2.5 litre manual), although rumor has it that the rental company may have done something to the engine so it had less power so people couldn't 'rag' them around on set.
I am going to test drive a 2005 L200 Warrior this weekend, but just wondered if anyone had any experience with either or both trucks, and could give me their views and opinions!
My price range is going to be about £7k.
Cheers,
Olly
Need to get a new car for work, but will also be my car for leisure time as well. Always wanted a pick up truck, and will be much easier putting all my equipment in the back of one of those, instead of the seats down in the back of my fiesta!
Narrowed it down to the L200 and Hilux. I drove a Hilux for six months last year at work, but seemed to be seriously underpowered (was the 2.5 litre manual), although rumor has it that the rental company may have done something to the engine so it had less power so people couldn't 'rag' them around on set.
I am going to test drive a 2005 L200 Warrior this weekend, but just wondered if anyone had any experience with either or both trucks, and could give me their views and opinions!
My price range is going to be about £7k.
Cheers,
Olly
Whatever one you get is going to feel pretty underpowered I'm afraid! The l200 can be chipped up to 130bhp-ish but it's still fecking slow. Seriously though, none of these older pickups are going to be much cop for long distance cruising or spirited driving...
It's not until the latest Navara (170-ish bhp) newer shape L200 (135-170 bhp depending on spec) and Hilux (up to 160bhp I think) came along that they got a bit better power-wise.
Defender TD5 can be taken up to 200bhp-ish if you throw enough cash at it.
They all have fairly low gearing (again, the newer models will have 6 speed boxes and better cruising abilities) so if you are looking for more power just for longer distance work it might be worth considering changing the diff ratio.
It's not until the latest Navara (170-ish bhp) newer shape L200 (135-170 bhp depending on spec) and Hilux (up to 160bhp I think) came along that they got a bit better power-wise.
Defender TD5 can be taken up to 200bhp-ish if you throw enough cash at it.
They all have fairly low gearing (again, the newer models will have 6 speed boxes and better cruising abilities) so if you are looking for more power just for longer distance work it might be worth considering changing the diff ratio.
Im obviously not expecting something to be rocketing along, Im not even expecting anything faster than my fiesta, but the hilux I drove last year was an 07 plate, but was horrendously slow, as if something was wrong almost!
What kind of year am I looking at (forget about budget), where they started getting better?
What kind of year am I looking at (forget about budget), where they started getting better?
Actually, I might be talking s
t about the L200. I think the new ones came in 2007 or so but I didn't realise they were as cheap as 7k.
They have permanent 4x4 (from the shogun) so are less wayward in the wet. Much more spacious, much more comfortable and I think they have a 6 speed box. 130-ish bhp but mitsu do official 160bhp power chips.
They're good vehicles.
t about the L200. I think the new ones came in 2007 or so but I didn't realise they were as cheap as 7k.They have permanent 4x4 (from the shogun) so are less wayward in the wet. Much more spacious, much more comfortable and I think they have a 6 speed box. 130-ish bhp but mitsu do official 160bhp power chips.
They're good vehicles.
Lefty Two Drams said:
Actually, I might be talking st about the L200. I think the new ones came in 2007 or so but I didn't realise they were as cheap as 7k.
They have permanent 4x4 (from the shogun) so are less wayward in the wet. Much more spacious, much more comfortable and I think they have a 6 speed box. 130-ish bhp but mitsu do official 160bhp power chips.
They're good vehicles.
I'll be honest, going on looks and what I've been told about them, the L200 is my current favorite. People keep giving me the example of the Hilux going to the North Pole Top Gear special, I then point out to them that there were 30,000 pounds worth of mods on that Hilux! t about the L200. I think the new ones came in 2007 or so but I didn't realise they were as cheap as 7k.They have permanent 4x4 (from the shogun) so are less wayward in the wet. Much more spacious, much more comfortable and I think they have a 6 speed box. 130-ish bhp but mitsu do official 160bhp power chips.
They're good vehicles.
Lefty Two Drams said:
Dave^ said:
Out of those two... I'd go for the Navara...
(On looks alone, no real experience with any of them...)
Not a great reputation for reliability though...(On looks alone, no real experience with any of them...)
Are there any more issues other than that?
Lefty Two Drams said:
Actually, I might be talking st about the L200. I think the new ones came in 2007 or so but I didn't realise they were as cheap as 7k.
They have permanent 4x4 (from the shogun) so are less wayward in the wet. Much more spacious, much more comfortable and I think they have a 6 speed box. 130-ish bhp but mitsu do official 160bhp power chips.
They're good vehicles.
The new shape came out in 2006, I got it release day!t about the L200. I think the new ones came in 2007 or so but I didn't realise they were as cheap as 7k.They have permanent 4x4 (from the shogun) so are less wayward in the wet. Much more spacious, much more comfortable and I think they have a 6 speed box. 130-ish bhp but mitsu do official 160bhp power chips.
They're good vehicles.
All the above is right apart from they have a 5 speed box. I have done 61,000 in mine (Warrior with leather, manual) and have never had any problems. Serviced on the button every 12,000 miles. Never had to top up the oil or water inbetween services. Front tyres lasted 45,000 miles, rears lasted 30,000 miles. Cannot fault it.
I average between 28-33mpg. Smallest turning circle in class which is handy in car parks.
Can't wait til next year when I change and get the Barbarian version that has just come out.
Edited for speeling.
Edited by Sixpackpert on Friday 19th March 16:02
We use Hilux's and L200's at work. The L200's are crap and fall apart too easily when carrying full loads everywhere. The Hilux's are slower and suffer from 'blips' from the mirrors above 80MPH.
Both vehicles have A/C and decent cd players and comfy enough seats.
Personally I'd take the Hilux over the L200 anyday, as for this type of vehicle speed is not important.
Someone above said the vehicles have six gears - the Hilux's have five.
Both vehicles have A/C and decent cd players and comfy enough seats.
Personally I'd take the Hilux over the L200 anyday, as for this type of vehicle speed is not important.
Someone above said the vehicles have six gears - the Hilux's have five.
Sorry that was my mistake.
The new style (2004-on maybe?) Navara certainly has a 6 speed box. I test drove an L200 long-bed last year and seem to recall it had a 6 speed box but I may well be talking out of my ass. It certainly had a 170bhp power upgrade and was very comfortable cruising at 70-80-ish and could pull very well up hills.
The new style (2004-on maybe?) Navara certainly has a 6 speed box. I test drove an L200 long-bed last year and seem to recall it had a 6 speed box but I may well be talking out of my ass. It certainly had a 170bhp power upgrade and was very comfortable cruising at 70-80-ish and could pull very well up hills.
All the turcks mentioned built over here, most people have them. The Thai's will pick the Toyota over anything else, followed by the Isuzu Dmax ( not sure what you lot call them), the Mitsubishi Triton (L200, see my profile.
Personally having driven them all for long periods, I prefer the Mitsubishi, feels the most carlike inside, like the looks ( Sorry ), Navarra hated as boxy, ugly and unreliable.
Toyotas hardly ever go wrong though, but our tritons are now 3 1/2 years old, only had new battery and pads on the 2wd auto, batteries don't last long here and the good lady never waits for the glow plug lamp to go out.
Personally having driven them all for long periods, I prefer the Mitsubishi, feels the most carlike inside, like the looks ( Sorry ), Navarra hated as boxy, ugly and unreliable.
Toyotas hardly ever go wrong though, but our tritons are now 3 1/2 years old, only had new battery and pads on the 2wd auto, batteries don't last long here and the good lady never waits for the glow plug lamp to go out.
Hi there, my flat mate has recently bought a navara 170bhp one and my dad a few months back bought a l200 for his farm.
The navara is like a car inside and really comfortable. However because of this and the large bodywork you feel like you would be very very upset to scratch, dent soemthing on it. Also i have heard nothing bad bad reports about them. Rear Axels quite literally falling off after off roading, engine issues, diffs leaking. My flat mates is a 50,000 mile example and the diff started leaking and two weeks ago its just started cutting out any drive in first gear round corners on occassions. wont go again until its turned off then back on. Its pretty quick for a pick up but with my flat mate driving like a complete granny everywhere the max it can ever get is 32mpg, nearly alwasy like 25mpg. I know of someone who got so fed up with owning one that he "acccidently" let it roll down his field and into the a ditch so he could get rid of it and get an insurance pay out.
L200, know loads of people with these. I know nothing about the mpg on this however. A guy further up said about the 4 work l200 not being any good,i.e just part full wheel drive?? i can assure you now having driven my dads one in 4 wheel drive on the farm and my friends fathers one (that replaced a defender) it will quite literally go anywhere. Not quite defender abilities off road but my friends dads one with on road tyres goes up inclines in thick mud like you just wouldnt belive, it will go pretty much anywhere. Its more basic, does like to roll a bit and yes dated inside etc but its reliable, makes a good work vehicle and theres a good reason why so many farmers in the westcountry have them now. Oh yeah also my mum and dad (plus dog on rear seats) drove our l200 from devon to the south of france at 75mph+ fully laden with the box on the back, so laden the rear wheels were near inside the arches and it went all the way there easy peasy.
Know nothing about the toyota hilux's other than farmers back home have all the old ones but you never see newer ones. Their also considerably more expensive than other pick ups for the same age, mileage, condition etc.
The navara is like a car inside and really comfortable. However because of this and the large bodywork you feel like you would be very very upset to scratch, dent soemthing on it. Also i have heard nothing bad bad reports about them. Rear Axels quite literally falling off after off roading, engine issues, diffs leaking. My flat mates is a 50,000 mile example and the diff started leaking and two weeks ago its just started cutting out any drive in first gear round corners on occassions. wont go again until its turned off then back on. Its pretty quick for a pick up but with my flat mate driving like a complete granny everywhere the max it can ever get is 32mpg, nearly alwasy like 25mpg. I know of someone who got so fed up with owning one that he "acccidently" let it roll down his field and into the a ditch so he could get rid of it and get an insurance pay out.
L200, know loads of people with these. I know nothing about the mpg on this however. A guy further up said about the 4 work l200 not being any good,i.e just part full wheel drive?? i can assure you now having driven my dads one in 4 wheel drive on the farm and my friends fathers one (that replaced a defender) it will quite literally go anywhere. Not quite defender abilities off road but my friends dads one with on road tyres goes up inclines in thick mud like you just wouldnt belive, it will go pretty much anywhere. Its more basic, does like to roll a bit and yes dated inside etc but its reliable, makes a good work vehicle and theres a good reason why so many farmers in the westcountry have them now. Oh yeah also my mum and dad (plus dog on rear seats) drove our l200 from devon to the south of france at 75mph+ fully laden with the box on the back, so laden the rear wheels were near inside the arches and it went all the way there easy peasy.
Know nothing about the toyota hilux's other than farmers back home have all the old ones but you never see newer ones. Their also considerably more expensive than other pick ups for the same age, mileage, condition etc.
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