RS1600i - GIB 5436 or HMJ 678Y
RS1600i - GIB 5436 or HMJ 678Y
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AlanatCBF

Original Poster:

8 posts

200 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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I am trying to find a black RS1600i which was first registered in February 1983 on the registration HMJ 678Y. I have established that a personal number plate GIB 5436 was put on the car during the 1990's.

DVLA has confirmed that the car is still registered but it has not been taxed for about 5 years and it is not on SORN.

DVLA won't provide me with the present owner's name or address because of the Data Protectrion Act. Don't you just love the government's nanny state!!

From posts on the RS owners club, I have established that the car was in the Cannock area about 10 years ago.

I was the original owner of this car and I would like to find it with a view to full restoration.

If anybody has any information about this car I would be very grateful.

Alan

Hub

7,166 posts

229 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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A serious needle in a haystack!

It could have been scrapped/dismantled without the DVLA being notified.

Good luck!

falkster

4,258 posts

234 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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It's very strange that it's not been taxed nor sorn for 5 years?? The current owner will be in for a big fine.

AlanatCBF

Original Poster:

8 posts

200 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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Thanks Hub....

I'm hoping that as its on a private number plate the car might still be sitting in a garage or barn somewhere.

Alan

SMB

1,523 posts

297 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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AlanatCBF said:
Thanks Hub....

I'm hoping that as its on a private number plate the car might still be sitting in a garage or barn somewhere.

Alan
If it was on a private plate the old one won't come up on the dvla website. Old car's I had years ago, which I know have gone to the scrap heap in the sky still show on the dvla site, so if it's not taxed, and showing there, it was probably scrapped a number of years ago.


rallycross

13,762 posts

268 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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most likely scrapped plenty of cars scrapped without sending off the forms to dvla - hence they class it as still being registered.

AlanatCBF

Original Poster:

8 posts

200 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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Thanks, I hope you're wrong!!

If the present owner wants to retain his personal number plate GIB 5436 then i think he has to either put the number on retention or keep the car intact.

Hopefully, it's the latter.

Any other ideas anybody??

Thanks

5lab

1,949 posts

227 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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you can request data from the DVLA if you have 'valid reason'

for instance, if that car had been parked on your private land, and you wanted to send them a parking ticket, DVLA will furnish you with their name and address for a small fee (£2.50 rings a bell).

Can you remember if that happened last week?

gib6933

5,278 posts

262 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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Nothing to do with me. smile

poo at Paul's

14,621 posts

206 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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5lab said:
you can request data from the DVLA if you have 'valid reason'

for instance, if that car had been parked on your private land, and you wanted to send them a parking ticket, DVLA will furnish you with their name and address for a small fee (£2.50 rings a bell).

Can you remember if that happened last week?
Serious repercussions if you lie to get this data, so I would not even bother trying this idea. If it turns out it was scrapped 5 years ago it will be clear you have lied about it being on your land, so tread crefully.

If it were me, I would join up on RS owners club, Passion ford forum even the xr owners club, and put out some post for info on this car. If it is still about, there is a good chance the owner is a member and may get in touch.

rallycross

13,762 posts

268 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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most likely scrapped plenty of cars scrapped without sending off the forms to dvla - hence they class it as still being registered.

AlanatCBF

Original Poster:

8 posts

200 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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Thanks guys.

I have already put out a request on the RS Owners' Club and that is where some of the helpful information has come from.

I have also made a request to DVLA for the present owner's name and address but they won't give out the information due to the Data Protection Act. This is somewhat bizarre because the Land Registry will provide anybody with full details of your name, address, property title, purchase price, details of your mortgage and any leases or covenants in respect of your home.....but DVLA wont give your name and address in respect of your car!!

Any more ideas to help me find GIB 5436 would be welcome.


Alan


Papa Hotel

12,760 posts

213 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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GIB is a bog standard Northern Irish plate. Try DVLNI.

AlanatCBF

Original Poster:

8 posts

200 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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Thanks Papa Hotel,

You are right. The number plate GIB 5436 was originally registered to a Renault in Northern Ireland in 1983. That car was subsequently exported to England. At some point circa 1990 the number plate GIB 5436 was transferred from the Renault to my old black RS1600i (which was previously HMJ 678Y).

DVLA at Swansea confirm that the vehicle (GIB 5436) is still registered but has not been taxed or Sorn for the past 5 years.

All I need is the name and address of the present registered keeper and the rest is easy.


Alan

AlanatCBF

Original Poster:

8 posts

200 months

Monday 22nd March 2010
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Anybody else out there who can help me...?

If you can help but can't post your reply in public (Data Protection Act), my private email is alan@cbfarm.freeserve.co.uk

Thanks

Alan

AlanatCBF

Original Poster:

8 posts

200 months

Friday 2nd April 2010
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Still looking for this Black RS1600i - GIB 5436 (was HMJ 678Y). As its a wet bank holiday weekend let's see how knows where my old car is now.

Thanks,


Alan