How reliable are the mileages recorded on hpi checks?
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I was due to go and view a car today. It's a fair bit away so i've looked into it as much as possible. Didn't have the full registration until last night so didn't have the chance to hpi it before then.
Car is advertised as 99k miles.
First Registered 10 Jul 2000
'My car check' shows these recorded mileages:
We have the following mileages recorded for this registration:
* 138,890 miles recorded on 30 Jul 2003
* 136,327 miles recorded on 18 Jun 2003
* 131,245 miles recorded on 16 May 2003
* 133,584 miles recorded on 8 May 2003
* 112,387 miles recorded on 17 Dec 2002
* 102,359 miles recorded on 9 Nov 2002
Please note that mileages are supplied by third parties and are not validated. Mileages may be rounded to the nearest thousand.
This would indicate a company vehicle and a further hpi shows that the source of the mileage is the BVRLA. I'd say this pretty much confirms the car was a company car and would support the high mileage.
Asked the seller about this and he admitted when he bought it there was a mileage discrepancy but he had it fully inspected and was happy to buy. He has sent me the recorded mileages from mot this morning:
2004 - 54785
2005 - 62803
2006 - 69791
Can I safely assume car has been clocked after first owner/company got rid but before first mot?
Any guesses at actual mileage now from what i've said?
It's an 2000 Audi A3 1.8T.
Car is advertised as 99k miles.
First Registered 10 Jul 2000
'My car check' shows these recorded mileages:
We have the following mileages recorded for this registration:
* 138,890 miles recorded on 30 Jul 2003
* 136,327 miles recorded on 18 Jun 2003
* 131,245 miles recorded on 16 May 2003
* 133,584 miles recorded on 8 May 2003
* 112,387 miles recorded on 17 Dec 2002
* 102,359 miles recorded on 9 Nov 2002
Please note that mileages are supplied by third parties and are not validated. Mileages may be rounded to the nearest thousand.
This would indicate a company vehicle and a further hpi shows that the source of the mileage is the BVRLA. I'd say this pretty much confirms the car was a company car and would support the high mileage.
Asked the seller about this and he admitted when he bought it there was a mileage discrepancy but he had it fully inspected and was happy to buy. He has sent me the recorded mileages from mot this morning:
2004 - 54785
2005 - 62803
2006 - 69791
Can I safely assume car has been clocked after first owner/company got rid but before first mot?
Any guesses at actual mileage now from what i've said?
It's an 2000 Audi A3 1.8T.
Those recorded mielages look off, 10k miles in 6 weeks, then the next 10k takes several months.
Not sure about now, but in 1999 I know my PHH run company car used to log "petrol" mileages with such agencies, and anyone diddling their company petrol would be in for it if they handed the car back with less miles than the last petrol log!
I feel pretty sure you could tell if an a3 18t has done 60k or 160k plus from a general inspection. It should have had a clutch at about 100k at least I'd suggest, so maybe check the sevice history with prev owners or garage. Also I should have had three cambelts, maybe 4!
HPI log mielages that customers enter as reported miles when they do a check, so those mielages could be bogus if someone was wanting to stuff someone's chances of selling a car, but what motivation would there be if it was a co car.
Speak to an Audi dealer and ask them to see if the reg is on the computer, see if they have any mileage records and records of work done. At that age, the MOT mileage is pretty low tbh, so that should be refelcted in the general car's condition, if it isn't, maybe it had a new binnacle and the miels went back to zero sometime?
Weird.
Not sure about now, but in 1999 I know my PHH run company car used to log "petrol" mileages with such agencies, and anyone diddling their company petrol would be in for it if they handed the car back with less miles than the last petrol log!
I feel pretty sure you could tell if an a3 18t has done 60k or 160k plus from a general inspection. It should have had a clutch at about 100k at least I'd suggest, so maybe check the sevice history with prev owners or garage. Also I should have had three cambelts, maybe 4!
HPI log mielages that customers enter as reported miles when they do a check, so those mielages could be bogus if someone was wanting to stuff someone's chances of selling a car, but what motivation would there be if it was a co car.
Speak to an Audi dealer and ask them to see if the reg is on the computer, see if they have any mileage records and records of work done. At that age, the MOT mileage is pretty low tbh, so that should be refelcted in the general car's condition, if it isn't, maybe it had a new binnacle and the miels went back to zero sometime?
Weird.
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