Do you have a peformance car?

[monthefish]

Before the riots start, I know that there is far more to defining a performance car than the above criteria, but I was just wondering about the general stats of the average PH'er.

If this poll was conducted of the general public, I'd suspect that 90% would be in the last category, but I would guess that PH would be around the 40% mark. So, let's see...

[cs02rm0]

3mph too slow.

[GravelBen]

I'm answering (a) on the basis that 5.x counts, and if you think otherwise you must have a pretty skewed idea of what constitutes a performance car!

Actually I could answer (c) if the Legacy had the Jap 180km/h limiter removed... MX5 does but redline in 5th calculates at 133mph

Edited by GravelBen on Friday 2nd April 11:11

[john_r]

Where's the option for having more than one car that can do both?

[Twincam16]

Those criteria seem to describe a particular kind of performance car - ie a modern one designed to be particularly 'competitive'.

I can think of several, much slower sports cars, quick saloons, hot hatches and rally cars that post times nowhere near those but are nothing but out-and-out 'performance cars'.

[monthefish]

GravelBen said:

I'm answering (a) on the basis that 5.x counts, and if you think otherwise you must have a pretty skewed idea of what constitutes a performance car!

I wasn't actually. Many top end rep mobiles and some diesels these days will do a 5 point something 0-60 dash, but on thinkiong about it, I suppose 5.5 would cut it.

OK, to clarify - round it to the nearest whole number using normal mathematical practice (i.e. 5.4 counts, 5.5 doesn't)

[dome]

One is limited to 155mph-never been their tho
The other is limited by it's age and 100Bhp 3l NA diesel...

[monthefish]

john_r said:

Where's the option for having more than one car that can do both?

[Edge99]

Factory figures for mine see 0-60 in 5seconds flat, but it's limited to 112mph (Jap import) so I have no idea on top end. I suspect around 140ish due the gearing.

[monthefish]

dome said:

One is limited to 155mph-never been their tho

That counts..

(especially as I have driven more than one supposedly 155mph-limited car at a higher (verified) speed.)

Edited by monthefish on Friday 2nd April 11:17

[10 Pence Short]

Does a C1 count? It can do 100mph. With a long run up. And a tail wind. And the back seats folded down.

[mugs]

I don't do full bore standing starts, and I've never got close to 155 in the UK, so those particular stats don't appeal to me and I'd never buy a car to tick those boxes. If a certain car appealed in other ways and happened to have those attributes then so be it, but I have my eye on other cars that still can't do either (ignoring the fact that my daily is a 3-pot diesel, LOL!)

[monthefish]

Twincam16 said:

Those criteria seem to describe a particular kind of performance car - ie a modern one designed to be particularly 'competitive'.

I can think of several, much slower sports cars, quick saloons, hot hatches and rally cars that post times nowhere near those but are nothing but out-and-out 'performance cars'.

So can I, but may I refer you to my opening gambit...

I said:

I know that there is far more to defining a performance car than the above criteria, but I was just wondering about the general stats of the average PH'er.

I was going to use the term 'sports car', but I thought this would be a safer can of worms to open...

[monthefish]

mugs said:

I don't do full bore standing starts, and I've never got close to 155 in the UK, so those particular stats don't appeal to me and I'd never buy a car to tick those boxes. If a certain car appealed in other ways and happened to have those attributes then so be it

Thanks for your contribution, but just tick the box and shut up.

[patmahe]

My car can't do either according to the figures (never do 0-60 runs in it) but I'd still regard a Lotus Elise as a performance car.

[monthefish]

patmahe said:

My car can't do either according to the figures (never do 0-60 runs in it) but I'd still regard a Lotus Elise as a performance car.

Hmmmm, it's definitely a sports car, not sure about performance car (maybe, but not on my (admittedly limited) criteria defined above)


Oh balls - that'll be the can of worms opened

Edited by monthefish on Friday 2nd April 11:26

[GravelBen]

monthefish said:

GravelBen said:

I'm answering (a) on the basis that 5.x counts, and if you think otherwise you must have a pretty skewed idea of what constitutes a performance car!

I wasn't actually. Many top end rep mobiles and some diesels these days will do a 5 point something 0-60 dash, but on thinkiong about it, I suppose 5.5 would cut it.

OK, to clarify - round it to the nearest whole number using normal mathematical practice (i.e. 5.4 counts, 5.5 doesn't)

Most of the rally-reps will do mid 5s (wet or dry) and you'd have to be pretty blinkered to try and exclude those while including the collection of 2 ton luxo-barges that will do 155mph.

Or a different example, my 280bhp MX5 probably wouldn't have the traction to crack 6s with the tyres currently on it, and is rev/gearing limited to 133mph. So according to you its less of a performance car than say a BMW 740, despite having a similar power/weight ratio to a 996 turbo?

Sorry, IMO your criteria fails. But its your thread so don't mind me!

Edited by GravelBen on Friday 2nd April 11:30

[jhfozzy]

Can do both , original specifications say 153mph, but the GPS has said differently on a few occasions (on an airfield before anyone starts).

[stigmundfreud]

I like his criteria as it puts me in an exclusive club. An mx-5 with 40000bhp can never be classed as a performance car in stock sense, I like to think of this as stock cars that are high in performance

[petrolveins]

Miss both, one by 4.8 seconds, and the other by 35mph.