Fog Lights in spray?
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olimeads

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3,927 posts

219 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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I'm traveling down to Buckinghamshire and it's raining. A pet hate of mine are fog light wkers, but what's the rule about having them on during road spray?

Oli

kambites

71,698 posts

252 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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Fog lights are only for use in conditions of severely reduced visibility, defined as under 100 meters I think.

Patrick Bateman

13,219 posts

205 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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Ya.

Front fogs in the pissing rain in single carriageways are a pain in the erse.

Robert060379

15,754 posts

214 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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If you use your fog lights in any other conditions than fog in Canada it's a $175 fine. Caught twice for the same offence (or once in snow) your licence gets endorsed.

Fog lights on in any other conditions than fog in the UK to me is, to make you aware that the driver with the lights on is a complete idiot and an accident waiting to happen.

chris1roll

2,069 posts

275 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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They are ONLY for use in FOG where visibilty is reduced to under 100 metres - When I was taught to drive this was quoted as being as far as you can see with main beam headlights on a clear night.
If I ever do use them (and being on the Somerset levels sometimes they are justified) as soon as someone gets close enough that I am sure they could see my normal tail lights I will turn off the fogs. Few other people seem to do this.
I find if we hit a patch of fog, and the car in front turns on the rear unnecessarily, a few quick main beam flashes usually gets it extinguished.

The utter morons who feel the need to burn the retinas out of the people in the cars following in the rain need to be abducted and taken to a secure location where they can be conditioned a la' "a clockwork orange" to be terrified of the fog light switch.

*Al*

3,830 posts

253 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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From what i've seen lately in poor visability and rain, i'd rather 'see' someone with fogs on than no lights at all.The amount of idiots i see with no lights on at all is rediculous!

kambites

71,698 posts

252 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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Highway Code said:
201. You MUST use headlights when visibility is seriously reduced, generally when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 feet). You may also use front or rear fog lights but you MUST switch them off when visibility improves (see Rule 211).
So it is perfectly legal to use fog lights in heavy rain and/or spray as long as the above conditions are met.

NotNormal

2,425 posts

245 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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*Al* said:
From what i've seen lately in poor visability and rain, i'd rather 'see' someone with fogs on than no lights at all.The amount of idiots i see with no lights on at all is rediculous!
+1

For me I put my rear fogs on when I myself struggle to see the normal lights of the car in front of me at a safe distance. I don't care whether its rain or fog, i'd rather been seen in those conditions than rammed into.

Shame most people don't apply simple common sense these days rolleyes

heebeegeetee

30,256 posts

279 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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NotNormal said:
*Al* said:
From what i've seen lately in poor visability and rain, i'd rather 'see' someone with fogs on than no lights at all.The amount of idiots i see with no lights on at all is rediculous!
+1

For me I put my rear fogs on when I myself struggle to see the normal lights of the car in front of me at a safe distance. I don't care whether its rain or fog, i'd rather been seen in those conditions than rammed into.

Shame most people don't apply simple common sense these days rolleyes
Who is going to ram into you? Who is traveling considerably faster than you? How does creating glare and masking the effects of your brake lights help you, precisely?

NotNormal

2,425 posts

245 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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Always a pedantic one when it comes of choice of words. Ok then someone not seeing the car full stop.

FYI brake lights appear on both sides of the car, the fog light is normally just the one side. TBH i'm not sure i've ever seen a fog light that its bright enough for me not to see anyones brake lights but maybe your just a bit more delicate in the eye department than me tongue out

Six Fiend

6,067 posts

246 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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NotNormal said:
Always a pedantic one when it comes of choice of words. Ok then someone not seeing the car full stop.

FYI brake lights appear on both sides of the car, the fog light is normally just the one side. TBH i'm not sure i've ever seen a fog light that its bright enough for me not to see anyones brake lights but maybe your just a bit more delicate in the eye department than me tongue out
Both of my vehicles have twin rear fogs.

NotNormal

2,425 posts

245 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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I don't doubt it as i've also had cars with twin fogs hence the word normally added in my reply.

*Al*

3,830 posts

253 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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NotNormal said:
*Al* said:
From what i've seen lately in poor visability and rain, i'd rather 'see' someone with fogs on than no lights at all.The amount of idiots i see with no lights on at all is rediculous!
+1

For me I put my rear fogs on when I myself struggle to see the normal lights of the car in front of me at a safe distance. I don't care whether its rain or fog, i'd rather been seen in those conditions than rammed into.

Shame most people don't apply simple common sense these days rolleyes
+1

Common sense surely?

kambites

71,698 posts

252 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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I have no idea how many fog light any of my cars have, I've never turned them on.

Six Fiend

6,067 posts

246 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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kambites said:
I have no idea how many fog light any of my cars have, I've never turned them on.
Never check your bulbs then?

kambites

71,698 posts

252 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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Six Fiend said:
kambites said:
I have no idea how many fog light any of my cars have, I've never turned them on.
Never check your bulbs then?
To be honest, no. I've ever bothered to check my fog-light bulbs. I check all the others every week but it had never occurred to me to check the fog lights. Off the top of my head, I don't even know where the switch is on any of my cars.

Edited by kambites on Saturday 3rd April 20:33

Rebuilda

866 posts

236 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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chris1roll said:
They are ONLY for use in FOG where visibilty is reduced to under 100 metres - When I was taught to drive this was quoted as being as far as you can see with main beam headlights on a clear night.
If I ever do use them (and being on the Somerset levels sometimes they are justified) as soon as someone gets close enough that I am sure they could see my normal tail lights I will turn off the fogs. Few other people seem to do this.
I apply the same rule, always turn them off if someone is close behind me.
I also believe that driving with them on after the visibility has improved should be classified as driving without due care and attention, possibly a bit extreme but if you cant see the warning light on your dash.. what else can't you see?
Maybe they could use the information signs above motorways to remind people of the highway code instead of setting a target time to reach the next junction. Just think of the slogans you could put up to remind people not to hog the middle lane, to turn off the fog lights etc...

tvrgit

8,490 posts

283 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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kambites said:
Six Fiend said:
kambites said:
I have no idea how many fog light any of my cars have, I've never turned them on.
Never check your bulbs then?
To be honest, no. I've ever bothered to check my fog-light bulbs. I check all the others every week but it had never occurred to me to check the fog lights. Off the top of my head, I don't even know where the switch is on any of my cars.
You know, now that you mention it, neither can I!

I think I must encounter driving conditions that would justify fog lights maybe once a year or so - front ones are bloody useless so dipped beam will do, rear ones are bloody useless if you're in heavy traffic anyway (because you just blind the guy behind) so the number of times you actually switch them on is about zero.

No wait, I know where the switch in the Cerbera is, because sometimes they switch themselves on and I have to put them off again (the wonders of TVR wiring).

ShadownINja

80,169 posts

313 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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Rebuilda said:
chris1roll said:
They are ONLY for use in FOG where visibilty is reduced to under 100 metres - When I was taught to drive this was quoted as being as far as you can see with main beam headlights on a clear night.
If I ever do use them (and being on the Somerset levels sometimes they are justified) as soon as someone gets close enough that I am sure they could see my normal tail lights I will turn off the fogs. Few other people seem to do this.
I apply the same rule, always turn them off if someone is close behind me.
I also believe that driving with them on after the visibility has improved should be classified as driving without due care and attention, possibly a bit extreme but if you cant see the warning light on your dash.. what else can't you see?
Maybe they could use the information signs above motorways to remind people of the highway code instead of setting a target time to reach the next junction. Just think of the slogans you could put up to remind people not to hog the middle lane, to turn off the fog lights etc...
yes Although I agree, bit extreme if they leave them on. Perhaps a mild electrocution from the steering wheel if they forget.

Robert060379

15,754 posts

214 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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"You's like got-a turn dem fog larts off man in-it" Pigin

"Turn off your fog lights" English

"Sniper at the next bridge with orders to clean the crap out of the gene pool" Only in English.

Is it just me or would anyone else really like that job? wink