How long before SPECS on EVERY road?
How long before SPECS on EVERY road?
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AJI

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5,180 posts

248 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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In modern socialist britain whereby everyone must follow strict rules and ones ability to think and act for themselves is no longer an approved government policy......how long before every road has SPECS cameras on it?


A few years ago there was the threat from NuLabior of little black boxes in every car that would report to monitoring authorities the current speed and location of every car (in theory). And more importantly the fact that if your vehicle strays a couple of miles per hour over a predefined limit then an automatic payment to the people in power would be welcomed.

As there has been no movement on the above it seems the next 'bright' idea may be that SPECS seems to be working, and following the recent case on the M6 motorway whereby the authorities netted a tidy sum of 3 million british pounds into their wallet, it could follow suit that installation of SPECS on every road with traffic flows over a certain volume could be 'justified' in their narrow minded little politician heads.

It maybe they would install permanent SPECS at evey 10km on the motorways.....and every 5km on major 'A' roads?
Even rural roads could be monitored and the hopeful of fines flowing in from a reduction of all rural roads from 60mph to 50mph?
They would attempt to justify the expendature on 'saving the planet from impending destruction' by forcing people to drive 'economically'....or even the usual case of ignoring their own road injury statistics which for years and years has never put speeding related accidents above 5% of the total......and like before, try to make out that speed is the root of ALL road accidents.



What are the views of pistonheaders on this?

martin vr6

3,884 posts

232 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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My view is that if this Labour Government gets elected yet again our fears may well become a reality.

I have thought about this in the past and if it does happen I reckon that's our traffic system screwed worse than it is already

magpie215

5,049 posts

220 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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If you had asked that question 10 years ago I would probably have laughed.

Now I am not so sure ;-(

Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

237 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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Unfortunately I think it's a virtual certainty in the not too distant future.

At which point my number plate will be ripped off the front of the car and placed in two bits in the passenger footwell in case a copper ever pulls me over.

Not that they will because the police will have all been replaced by cameras.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

235 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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This, except you'll need to throw the tyre a bit higher...

cs02rm0

13,966 posts

222 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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Not very. Hopefully the revolution won't be far behind though.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

235 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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Never

Too many roads and too many junctions

Example this is about a square mile near me

You need about 20 cameras to police it as you would need one at each junction to accurately measure a random cars speed

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=aberdeen&ie=UT...

I think there is probably less then 20 houses in the same area

Its just not doable on every road

Robert060379

15,754 posts

214 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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Never, the whole system will be replaced by satalite tracking soon. Now the Star Wars project has been shelved and they are sat dormant in orbit. The septics are running a trial now. Tracking vehicles from space recording speed and issuing a fine direct to your bank account before you get home.

kambites

71,682 posts

252 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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It'll never happen. They may come up with some other way to enforce the law, but it wont be SPECS.

Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

237 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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It may not be on every road but it'll be on every motorway and dc soon.
I drove Manchester to Southampton recently. The M56, M6, M1, M25 and M3 were very well covered by SPECS. Middle of the night, nobody doing any fking work, no traffic but had to stick religiously to 50mph for fear of getting taxed

redstu

2,287 posts

270 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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I don't like this thread , it's close to predicting the future. The government loves to control and repress and this is one way of doing it succesfully and make a profit at the same time. Life in the uk was so much better 20 years ago !

Fleckers

2,880 posts

232 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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Mr Gearchange said:
Unfortunately I think it's a virtual certainty in the not too distant future.

At which point my number plate will be ripped off the front of the car and placed in two bits in the passenger footwell in case a copper ever pulls me over.

Not that they will because the police will have all been replaced by cameras.
Only issue I can see wiht this is some camera operator who is on minimum wage + number of convictions bonus will then look for you car on the million of traffic camaras and get your plate number from behind and you get double whammy, the speeding + some trumped up trying to avoid speeding cameras charge

Best thing is to get a PL plated car like 99.9999999999999999999999999% of people in SE London seem to be driving then you dont need to obey laws, road rules or have tax, insurance, MOT nuffink

Robert060379

15,754 posts

214 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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0845 456 45local plod.

"Hello I'd like to report a missing numberplate". Then go past all the cameras you can find at 70. wink

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

286 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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If this happens, I'll be leaving this island...

And selling number plates from afar...

But don't tell Lord Superspiv, or he'll be in there faster than an exploding Amstrad amp....hehe

ewenm

28,506 posts

276 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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SPECS on EVERY road? Never happen.

GPS monitoring on EVERY car? Possible... and Labour utopia...

Edited by ewenm on Saturday 3rd April 23:38

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

264 months

Saturday 3rd April 2010
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I can't help thinking of all those 'information' signs that have gone up all over the country. Anyone want to comment on the amount of spare bandwidth in the wiring for them?

flemke

23,515 posts

268 months

Sunday 4th April 2010
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Unless I missed it, there is no mention in this thread of the other Labour goal - universal road charging. Their chosen system will enable them to kill two of our rights with one wrong.
Whether it be by fixed cameras at every access point, or by GPS, they'll be able to use the excuse of constant monitoring of speed ("If you don't break the law, you have nothing to worry about..." sleep ) to justify road charging, and to use the excuse of road charging ("If we're going to meet our carbon reduction targets..." sleep ) to justify the constant monitoring of speed.

JamesM

3,114 posts

220 months

Sunday 4th April 2010
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AJI said:
In modern socialist britain whereby everyone must follow strict rules and ones ability to think and act for themselves is no longer an approved government policy......how long before every road has SPECS cameras on it?
Never if my trusty disk cutter has a word with the cameras.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

286 months

Sunday 4th April 2010
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flemke said:
Unless I missed it, there is no mention in this thread of the other Labour goal - universal road charging.
The Galileo satellite system is up there already, and is an EU wide project of control freakery. Income from road charging was built into its costing from day one.

I've spoken to many French, German and Dutch bods about this. Not one of them had even heard of it.

ymwoods

2,194 posts

208 months

Sunday 4th April 2010
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JamesM said:
AJI said:
In modern socialist britain whereby everyone must follow strict rules and ones ability to think and act for themselves is no longer an approved government policy......how long before every road has SPECS cameras on it?
Never if my trusty disk cutter has a word with the cameras.
To be honest, if it happens, thats the only way you would be safe from the fines and money.

Everyone slips over the limit, if they did introduce GPS tracking then I am sure the car companies would not be far behind with automatic speed restrictions built into the car. I.E. It "knows" the limit and will not allow the driver to go faster.

Of course...this then means no little bit of fun down that country lane....