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boomboompow

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7,021 posts

215 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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I saw an AMG G-Wagen in town a lunchtime (lovely bit of kit IMO) and walking back to the office I notice someone in here has bought themselves a Clio v6 (again, very cloud9). Thinking about these two compared to their natural rivals has brought me to realise how much I admire car manufacturers who think "bks to the competition; we're going to make and sell these anyway"

So what other cars out there have been made in the same vain? I guess Renault have quite a history of doing this (V6, Avantime, Val Satis) but I couldn't think of any others who have been made, seemingly, just for the hell of it scratchchin

bazking69

8,620 posts

221 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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I think the Veyron is the benchmark in 'fk it, lets just do it to prove a point'.

MarJay

2,181 posts

206 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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I'd say the M3 and M5 fit into that category. Before the M5, who needed a lightning fast track capable saloon that you could use to take your kids to school and go to that business meeting? Nobody did. You either had a fast car or a practical car.

300bhp in a small saloon like the E36 M3 is silly, and yet they did it and it is a fantastic car. It raised the bar for all manufacturers and made something that hot hatches simply couldn't live with.

10JH

2,070 posts

225 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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Cayenne Turbo S - Pointless but hilarious stats. Little competition too.

Mr Gearchange

5,892 posts

237 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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Fiat Multipla - nobody needs a car that is so wilfully fugly.

rigga

8,808 posts

232 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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TVR Cerbera .

hairykrishna

14,539 posts

234 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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Lotus Carlton

Stu R

21,701 posts

246 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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Viper engined dodge ram and the ford lightning smile

spanna123

3,737 posts

207 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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10JH said:
Cayenne Turbo S - Pointless but hilarious stats. Little competition too.
BMW X5 M
BMW X6 M
Range Rover Sport Supercharged
VW Toureg
Audi Q7

Fabric 2.2

3,822 posts

223 months

Tuesday 6th April 2010
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spanna123 said:
Audi Q7
Was about to say, the V12 TDI Q7's pretty high up on my list of hedonistic cars. biggrin

bazking69

8,620 posts

221 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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Dodge Ram SRT10?

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

264 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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Mk I Golf GTI

Gizmo!

18,150 posts

240 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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Plymouth Prowler...
Ariel Atom...

kambites

71,681 posts

252 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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MarJay said:
I'd say the M3 and M5 fit into that category. Before the M5, who needed a lightning fast track capable saloon that you could use to take your kids to school and go to that business meeting? Nobody did. You either had a fast car or a practical car.

300bhp in a small saloon like the E36 M3 is silly, and yet they did it and it is a fantastic car. It raised the bar for all manufacturers and made something that hot hatches simply couldn't live with.
Jaguar, for one, had been producing high performance saloons for years before BMW tried it. The mark2 would do 0-60 in 8.5 seconds in the early 60s, which was every bit as fast as the original M5 was for its era.

ZesPak

26,159 posts

227 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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kambites said:
MarJay said:
I'd say the M3 and M5 fit into that category. Before the M5, who needed a lightning fast track capable saloon that you could use to take your kids to school and go to that business meeting? Nobody did. You either had a fast car or a practical car.

300bhp in a small saloon like the E36 M3 is silly, and yet they did it and it is a fantastic car. It raised the bar for all manufacturers and made something that hot hatches simply couldn't live with.
Jaguar, for one, had been producing high performance saloons for years before BMW tried it. The mark2 would do 0-60 in 8.5 seconds in the early 60s, which was every bit as fast as the original M5 was for its era.
So BMW aren't the alfa and omega of automotive greatness? hehe

As for the topic: Avantime scores high on my list, that's why I like it.
Ah in fact this goes for a lot of big french cars. Like the C6 for example.

DrTre

12,957 posts

263 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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Stu R said:
Viper engined dodge ram and the ford lightning smile
Similarly, the GMC Syclone and the daddy of them all, the Lamborghini LM002.

Citroen SM?

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

221 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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MarJay said:
I'd say the M3 and M5 fit into that category. Before the M5, who needed a lightning fast track capable saloon that you could use to take your kids to school and go to that business meeting? Nobody did. You either had a fast car or a practical car.

300bhp in a small saloon like the E36 M3 is silly, and yet they did it and it is a fantastic car. It raised the bar for all manufacturers and made something that hot hatches simply couldn't live with.
Yeah shoving a big engine in a family car had never been thought of until the Germans did it...... whistle


300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

221 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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smart cars, specifically the Roadster.

Corvette ZL1
MG ZT260
Aston Martin Vantage twin supercharged
F150 SVT Raptor

boomboompow

Original Poster:

7,021 posts

215 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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bazking69 said:
I think the Veyron is the benchmark in 'fk it, lets just do it to prove a point'.
Fair point, but surely people expect this mentality from supercar makers? it's the mainstream manufacturers who have corporate images, shareholders and run-of-the-mill cars that making up 99% of their produce I was eluding to in my OP.

I guess the VW Phaeton is another example; VW must have known the vast majority of the motoring public would go to BMW/Merc/Audi/Lexus for their barges, but they built the bloody thing anyway - same thing for the (utterly brilliant) C6.

mat205125

17,790 posts

244 months

Wednesday 7th April 2010
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Mr Gearchange said:
Fiat Multipla - nobody needs a car that is so wilfully fugly.
Ugly? Yes, however absolute genius in terms of space and packaging. I'm considering one for daily work hacking and mountain bike riding duties.