Barrys who Barry about....
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I have to say that for years I have smirked to myself rather scornfully whenever a Barried Saxo or similar glides past.
However, the other week while in conversation with a local Barry, he pointed something out to me which has led me to no longer smirk or scorn.
He basically pointed out the obvious which I had not appreciated which was that when I was a teenager fresh with a new driving license, I could have bought and driven around in a 2 litre car, or I could have fitted a 1500 souped up engine to a mini and gone ballistic, but nowadays, new drivers are prevented from this by high insurance premiums.
The net result is that the cash and creative desire to improve your turdbag first car has had to veer away from engine fettling and has morphed into a visual art form.
When you look at some of the Barry transport that is around some of it is really pretty spectacular. Obviously, a lot is horrific, but then I had a mate who screwed a home made wooden spoiler onto the boot of his Chevette.
Is it time to respect the Barry?
However, the other week while in conversation with a local Barry, he pointed something out to me which has led me to no longer smirk or scorn.
He basically pointed out the obvious which I had not appreciated which was that when I was a teenager fresh with a new driving license, I could have bought and driven around in a 2 litre car, or I could have fitted a 1500 souped up engine to a mini and gone ballistic, but nowadays, new drivers are prevented from this by high insurance premiums.
The net result is that the cash and creative desire to improve your turdbag first car has had to veer away from engine fettling and has morphed into a visual art form.
When you look at some of the Barry transport that is around some of it is really pretty spectacular. Obviously, a lot is horrific, but then I had a mate who screwed a home made wooden spoiler onto the boot of his Chevette.
Is it time to respect the Barry?
mk III 'tinaDonkeyApple said:
morphed into a visual art form.
See below for a whole thread that contradicts that statement:http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... in the PH Classifieds
High insurance premiums for kids is nothing new.
What does seem to be new is chav hordes spending their giro on dog-s
t addenda to stick to their wker chariots.
Have you seen the amount of money people spend on this st - "Here's a picture of my barried-up Corsa stbox, i've spend over 30K making it look like a retarded spack wagon with a playstation in the boot and an exhaust like a sewer pipe. It would have been a much wiser decision all round to spend this money on a sportscar and insurance but then I wouldn't get to finger as many 15 year old girls down the park"
Its all to do with the "look at me" culture that seems to prevail recently. Where 'show' is more important than 'go' and where the level of bling is the benchmark for teenage aspiration.
Knobends.
What does seem to be new is chav hordes spending their giro on dog-s
t addenda to stick to their wker chariots. Have you seen the amount of money people spend on this s
t - "Here's a picture of my barried-up Corsa stbox, i've spend over 30K making it look like a retarded spack wagon with a playstation in the boot and an exhaust like a sewer pipe. It would have been a much wiser decision all round to spend this money on a sportscar and insurance but then I wouldn't get to finger as many 15 year old girls down the park"Its all to do with the "look at me" culture that seems to prevail recently. Where 'show' is more important than 'go' and where the level of bling is the benchmark for teenage aspiration.
Knobends.
Matt Evans said:
DonkeyApple said:
morphed into a visual art form.
See below for a whole thread that contradicts that statement:http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... in the PH Classifieds
Took me ages to work out what this was. It was only the rear glass shape that gave it away as a mini!!!!
There seem to be a lot of Barry Deniers out there. Are people protesting too much? Closet Barrys?
The Crack Fox said:
DonkeyApple said:
He basically pointed out the obvious which I had not appreciated which was that when I was a teenager fresh with a new driving license, I could have bought and driven around in a 2 litre car
How old are you ?! Insurance has been linked to engine size/performance for decades... and to reiterate what others have said, if Barry bothered to inform his insurer about all his modifications, it would probably cost the same as a standard car with a decent engine. Spunking money on costmetic 'modifications' to a nasty 1.2 Corsa is the sign of the mentally deficient...I don't recall insurance being high years ago. At 21 my Griff was £450 and I seem to recall a 2L Passat was only a few hundred quid. I doubt someone at 21 could get a meaningful number for a Griff or similar today.
However, I wasn't aware that Barrying increases an insurance premium. I knew mechanical mods would but adding a paint job, tacky body kit, lighting and stereo? Shirley not?
DonkeyApple said:
How old am I? I've had my own insurance for 20 years now
However, I wasn't aware that Barrying increases an insurance premium. I knew mechanical mods would but adding a paint job, tacky body kit, lighting and stereo? Shirley not?
err....your two statements seem to contradict each other! How can you have had insurance for 20 years and not known the meaning to the questions you were asked about your car every 12 months.However, I wasn't aware that Barrying increases an insurance premium. I knew mechanical mods would but adding a paint job, tacky body kit, lighting and stereo? Shirley not?
DonkeyApple said:
The Crack Fox said:
DonkeyApple said:
He basically pointed out the obvious which I had not appreciated which was that when I was a teenager fresh with a new driving license, I could have bought and driven around in a 2 litre car
How old are you ?! Insurance has been linked to engine size/performance for decades... and to reiterate what others have said, if Barry bothered to inform his insurer about all his modifications, it would probably cost the same as a standard car with a decent engine. Spunking money on costmetic 'modifications' to a nasty 1.2 Corsa is the sign of the mentally deficient...I don't recall insurance being high years ago. At 21 my Griff was £450 and I seem to recall a 2L Passat was only a few hundred quid. I doubt someone at 21 could get a meaningful number for a Griff or similar today.
However, I wasn't aware that Barrying increases an insurance premium. I knew mechanical mods would but adding a paint job, tacky body kit, lighting and stereo? Shirley not?
RobCrezz said:
DonkeyApple said:
The Crack Fox said:
DonkeyApple said:
He basically pointed out the obvious which I had not appreciated which was that when I was a teenager fresh with a new driving license, I could have bought and driven around in a 2 litre car
How old are you ?! Insurance has been linked to engine size/performance for decades... and to reiterate what others have said, if Barry bothered to inform his insurer about all his modifications, it would probably cost the same as a standard car with a decent engine. Spunking money on costmetic 'modifications' to a nasty 1.2 Corsa is the sign of the mentally deficient...I don't recall insurance being high years ago. At 21 my Griff was £450 and I seem to recall a 2L Passat was only a few hundred quid. I doubt someone at 21 could get a meaningful number for a Griff or similar today.
However, I wasn't aware that Barrying increases an insurance premium. I knew mechanical mods would but adding a paint job, tacky body kit, lighting and stereo? Shirley not?
So this has been the case for one hell of a long time.
Insurance companies charge more for pretty much any change.
And if something is likely to mark you out as a risk it would be nailing a st body kit to your car. Don't forget the premium is not just based on the value of your car but the risk you pose to other road users. A lot of Barrys drive like tts regardless of power (in spite of?) that's a risk.
And if something is likely to mark you out as a risk it would be nailing a s
t body kit to your car. Don't forget the premium is not just based on the value of your car but the risk you pose to other road users. A lot of Barrys drive like tts regardless of power (in spite of?) that's a risk.
Munter said:
DonkeyApple said:
How old am I? I've had my own insurance for 20 years now
However, I wasn't aware that Barrying increases an insurance premium. I knew mechanical mods would but adding a paint job, tacky body kit, lighting and stereo? Shirley not?
err....your two statements seem to contradict each other! How can you have had insurance for 20 years and not known the meaning to the questions you were asked about your car every 12 months.However, I wasn't aware that Barrying increases an insurance premium. I knew mechanical mods would but adding a paint job, tacky body kit, lighting and stereo? Shirley not?
Broker calls up once a year, asks if anything has changed, I say no, end of conversation. Been like that for 20 years.
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