Monday 12th April 2010

New 'RS500' Upgrade Pack for RS owners

Dealer-fit Mountune kit offers 345hp without warranty worries

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Ford revealed the RS500 last week...

Ford's recently revealed Focus RS500 limited edition sold out within moments of its official announcement, but a new performance pack from Mountune means you can build your own instead.

The factory-approved package includes a series of engine upgrades similar to those fitted to the RS500. The kit was developed by Ford's Team RS powertrain engineers in partnership with Mountune's performance fettlers, and a full testing and durability programme ensures there is no impact on the car's standard warranty.

....now RS owners can join the fun

The Focus RS performance upgrade increases peak power from 300hp to 345hp (350PS), while torque rises from to 324lb ft to 340lb ft. Modifications releasing the extra urge include a larger intercooler, a larger air filter box, a larger diameter exhaust downpipe and an uprated fuel pump, along with an updated software calibration.

The new MP350 package is available from Mountune Performance via a selected network of Ford dealers, initially in the UK, with a European roll-out planned later, the company says.

Mountune also points out this is the only Ford-approved upgrade for the Focus RS, and also the only aftermarket package available which does not invalidate the standard Ford warranty - so there!

[spiderish]

How much would that be costing then ??

[soad]

spiderish said:

How much would that be costing then ??

I don't know. Probably not that cheap.

And that matt colour/wrap thing does it no favours either.

[Zletsgo]

spiderish said:

How much would that be costing then ??

£2200 fitted apparently

[zcacogp]

345 horses through the front wheels.

Am I the only one thinking that can't be a happy arrangement? (Clever front suspension notwithstanding.)


Oli.

[beano9]

Zletsgo said:

spiderish said:

How much would that be costing then ??

£2200 fitted apparently

yup -
http://www.mountunestore.com/Product/PRE-ORDER--Fo...

[beano9]

zcacogp said:

345 horses through the front wheels.

Am I the only one thinking that can't be a happy arrangement? (Clever front suspension notwithstanding.)


Oli.

Hmmmm -
Have you been in or drivin a Focus rs?
mk 1 or 2 for that matter

Edited by beano9 on Monday 12th April 11:12

[leon9191]

The mountune kit that evo had fitted to its long term ST gave it much more power and torque than was quoted, wonder if this will do the same.

Also I've heard quite a bit in the press about some RS's being fitter than others anyone got experience of that?

[Johnnytheboy]

zcacogp said:

345 horses through the front wheels.

Am I the only one thinking that can't be a happy arrangement? (Clever front suspension notwithstanding.)


Oli.

That thread development didn't take long!

[David87]

I believe the engine upgrades are exactly the same as those fitted to the RS500. £2200 all-in isn't bad for the extra stuff you get I suppose. It should be pretty damn fast too!

[5678]

leon9191 said:

The mountune kit that evo had fitted to its long term ST gave it much more power and torque than was quoted, wonder if this will do the same.

Also I've heard quite a bit in the press about some RS's being fitter than others anyone got experience of that?

Also heard the same. Can't recall where it was but in a test between the RS (300bhp) and Renaultsport Megane 250 (250bhp), the real world numbers were more like 280bhp vs 270bhp. A supposed 50hp difference was actually only 10hp.

[Zletsgo]

5678 said:

leon9191 said:

The mountune kit that evo had fitted to its long term ST gave it much more power and torque than was quoted, wonder if this will do the same.

Also I've heard quite a bit in the press about some RS's being fitter than others anyone got experience of that?

Also heard the same. Can't recall where it was but in a test between the RS (300bhp) and Renaultsport Megane 250 (250bhp), the real world numbers were more like 280bhp vs 270bhp. A supposed 50hp difference was actually only 10hp.

Maybe this is a case like the original FRS whereby Evo experienced vastly different experiences from one car to the next - caused them to add "make sure you buy a good one" on their comments

[Ben Ja Min]

5678 said:

leon9191 said:

The mountune kit that evo had fitted to its long term ST gave it much more power and torque than was quoted, wonder if this will do the same.

Also I've heard quite a bit in the press about some RS's being fitter than others anyone got experience of that?

Also heard the same. Can't recall where it was but in a test between the RS (300bhp) and Renaultsport Megane 250 (250bhp), the real world numbers were more like 280bhp vs 270bhp. A supposed 50hp difference was actually only 10hp.

I would agree. Considering the level of modifications the equivalent after market offerings with a similar parts list are quoting 365bhp and that's still with the standard fuel pump. Put bigger injectors and tinker a bit more with the ECU and I'm sure you'll see 400bhp with the Mountune kit.

[Dagnut]

Zletsgo said:

5678 said:

leon9191 said:

The mountune kit that evo had fitted to its long term ST gave it much more power and torque than was quoted, wonder if this will do the same.

Also I've heard quite a bit in the press about some RS's being fitter than others anyone got experience of that?

Also heard the same. Can't recall where it was but in a test between the RS (300bhp) and Renaultsport Megane 250 (250bhp), the real world numbers were more like 280bhp vs 270bhp. A supposed 50hp difference was actually only 10hp.

Maybe this is a case like the original FRS whereby Evo experienced vastly different experiences from one car to the next - caused them to add "make sure you buy a good one" on their comments

I'd be very surprised if that was true...Renualt like to be generous with their figures.

[5678]

Dagnut said:

Zletsgo said:

5678 said:

leon9191 said:

The mountune kit that evo had fitted to its long term ST gave it much more power and torque than was quoted, wonder if this will do the same.

Also I've heard quite a bit in the press about some RS's being fitter than others anyone got experience of that?

Also heard the same. Can't recall where it was but in a test between the RS (300bhp) and Renaultsport Megane 250 (250bhp), the real world numbers were more like 280bhp vs 270bhp. A supposed 50hp difference was actually only 10hp.

Maybe this is a case like the original FRS whereby Evo experienced vastly different experiences from one car to the next - caused them to add "make sure you buy a good one" on their comments

I'd be very surprised if that was true...Renualt like to be generous with their figures.

It was the "Mega-Hatch" report by Evo...

Evo said:

A busy day lies ahead. We’re starting off at Rapid GB’s rolling road before moving on to the Bedford Autodrome and then the Millbrook Proving Ground. Tomorrow is Wales; today is a numbers day.

The first numbers are a bit bigger than expected. The damp, chill November air is just about ideal for peak dyno readings, and it turns out Renault could re-badge the Mégane a 270 (it produces 268bhp), while the Golf, over 10 per cent up on where it should be (229bhp rather than 207), is almost halfway to having the power promised for the forthcoming R version. The car that already has that new VW Group engine, the Cupra R, is also up a chunk from the 261bhp it’s meant to have, returning 274bhp. Is the dyno at fault? A 279bhp reading for the Focus suggests not – Rapid GB has yet to see an RS with a full 300-strong stable. The upshot of all this is that the 50bhp chasm that should separate Mégane from Focus is really only a 10bhp crack in the pavement. It should make for some interesting times at Bedford.

[5678]

Dagnut said:

Zletsgo said:

5678 said:

leon9191 said:

The mountune kit that evo had fitted to its long term ST gave it much more power and torque than was quoted, wonder if this will do the same.

Also I've heard quite a bit in the press about some RS's being fitter than others anyone got experience of that?

Also heard the same. Can't recall where it was but in a test between the RS (300bhp) and Renaultsport Megane 250 (250bhp), the real world numbers were more like 280bhp vs 270bhp. A supposed 50hp difference was actually only 10hp.

Maybe this is a case like the original FRS whereby Evo experienced vastly different experiences from one car to the next - caused them to add "make sure you buy a good one" on their comments

I'd be very surprised if that was true...Renualt like to be generous with their figures.

It was the "Mega-Hatch" report by Evo...

Evo said:

A busy day lies ahead. We’re starting off at Rapid GB’s rolling road before moving on to the Bedford Autodrome and then the Millbrook Proving Ground. Tomorrow is Wales; today is a numbers day.

The first numbers are a bit bigger than expected. The damp, chill November air is just about ideal for peak dyno readings, and it turns out Renault could re-badge the Mégane a 270 (it produces 268bhp), while the Golf, over 10 per cent up on where it should be (229bhp rather than 207), is almost halfway to having the power promised for the forthcoming R version. The car that already has that new VW Group engine, the Cupra R, is also up a chunk from the 261bhp it’s meant to have, returning 274bhp. Is the dyno at fault? A 279bhp reading for the Focus suggests not – Rapid GB has yet to see an RS with a full 300-strong stable. The upshot of all this is that the 50bhp chasm that should separate Mégane from Focus is really only a 10bhp crack in the pavement. It should make for some interesting times at Bedford.

[Dagnut]

5678 said:

Dagnut said:

Zletsgo said:

5678 said:

leon9191 said:

The mountune kit that evo had fitted to its long term ST gave it much more power and torque than was quoted, wonder if this will do the same.

Also I've heard quite a bit in the press about some RS's being fitter than others anyone got experience of that?

Also heard the same. Can't recall where it was but in a test between the RS (300bhp) and Renaultsport Megane 250 (250bhp), the real world numbers were more like 280bhp vs 270bhp. A supposed 50hp difference was actually only 10hp.

Maybe this is a case like the original FRS whereby Evo experienced vastly different experiences from one car to the next - caused them to add "make sure you buy a good one" on their comments

I'd be very surprised if that was true...Renualt like to be generous with their figures.

It was the "Mega-Hatch" report by Evo...

Evo said:

A busy day lies ahead. We’re starting off at Rapid GB’s rolling road before moving on to the Bedford Autodrome and then the Millbrook Proving Ground. Tomorrow is Wales; today is a numbers day.

The first numbers are a bit bigger than expected. The damp, chill November air is just about ideal for peak dyno readings, and it turns out Renault could re-badge the Mégane a 270 (it produces 268bhp), while the Golf, over 10 per cent up on where it should be (229bhp rather than 207), is almost halfway to having the power promised for the forthcoming R version. The car that already has that new VW Group engine, the Cupra R, is also up a chunk from the 261bhp it’s meant to have, returning 274bhp. Is the dyno at fault? A 279bhp reading for the Focus suggests not – Rapid GB has yet to see an RS with a full 300-strong stable. The upshot of all this is that the 50bhp chasm that should separate Mégane from Focus is really only a 10bhp crack in the pavement. It should make for some interesting times at Bedford.

Thanks for that, genuinely surprised.

[Glosphil]

Dagnut said:

5678 said:

Dagnut said:

Zletsgo said:

5678 said:

leon9191 said:

The mountune kit that evo had fitted to its long term ST gave it much more power and torque than was quoted, wonder if this will do the same.

Also I've heard quite a bit in the press about some RS's being fitter than others anyone got experience of that?

Also heard the same. Can't recall where it was but in a test between the RS (300bhp) and Renaultsport Megane 250 (250bhp), the real world numbers were more like 280bhp vs 270bhp. A supposed 50hp difference was actually only 10hp.

Maybe this is a case like the original FRS whereby Evo experienced vastly different experiences from one car to the next - caused them to add "make sure you buy a good one" on their comments

I'd be very surprised if that was true...Renualt like to be generous with their figures.

It was the "Mega-Hatch" report by Evo...

Evo said:

A busy day lies ahead. We’re starting off at Rapid GB’s rolling road before moving on to the Bedford Autodrome and then the Millbrook Proving Ground. Tomorrow is Wales; today is a numbers day.

The first numbers are a bit bigger than expected. The damp, chill November air is just about ideal for peak dyno readings, and it turns out Renault could re-badge the Mégane a 270 (it produces 268bhp), while the Golf, over 10 per cent up on where it should be (229bhp rather than 207), is almost halfway to having the power promised for the forthcoming R version. The car that already has that new VW Group engine, the Cupra R, is also up a chunk from the 261bhp it’s meant to have, returning 274bhp. Is the dyno at fault? A 279bhp reading for the Focus suggests not – Rapid GB has yet to see an RS with a full 300-strong stable. The upshot of all this is that the 50bhp chasm that should separate Mégane from Focus is really only a 10bhp crack in the pavement. It should make for some interesting times at Bedford.

Thanks for that, genuinely surprised.

But aren't those quoted 'engine' power figures calculated from the measured at-the-wheels power output using assumptions on power loss in the transmission etc. for each car? Do the manufacturers supply a figure for the losses or are they just guessed?

[k-ink]

My 250bhp FWD Alfa was a pain in the ass to drive. With 100 more this is not going to be ideal. Clever marketing or not.

[Zletsgo]

Glosphil said:

Dagnut said:

5678 said:

Dagnut said:

Zletsgo said:

5678 said:

leon9191 said:

The mountune kit that evo had fitted to its long term ST gave it much more power and torque than was quoted, wonder if this will do the same.

Also I've heard quite a bit in the press about some RS's being fitter than others anyone got experience of that?

Also heard the same. Can't recall where it was but in a test between the RS (300bhp) and Renaultsport Megane 250 (250bhp), the real world numbers were more like 280bhp vs 270bhp. A supposed 50hp difference was actually only 10hp.

Maybe this is a case like the original FRS whereby Evo experienced vastly different experiences from one car to the next - caused them to add "make sure you buy a good one" on their comments

I'd be very surprised if that was true...Renualt like to be generous with their figures.

It was the "Mega-Hatch" report by Evo...

Evo said:

A busy day lies ahead. We’re starting off at Rapid GB’s rolling road before moving on to the Bedford Autodrome and then the Millbrook Proving Ground. Tomorrow is Wales; today is a numbers day.

The first numbers are a bit bigger than expected. The damp, chill November air is just about ideal for peak dyno readings, and it turns out Renault could re-badge the Mégane a 270 (it produces 268bhp), while the Golf, over 10 per cent up on where it should be (229bhp rather than 207), is almost halfway to having the power promised for the forthcoming R version. The car that already has that new VW Group engine, the Cupra R, is also up a chunk from the 261bhp it’s meant to have, returning 274bhp. Is the dyno at fault? A 279bhp reading for the Focus suggests not – Rapid GB has yet to see an RS with a full 300-strong stable. The upshot of all this is that the 50bhp chasm that should separate Mégane from Focus is really only a 10bhp crack in the pavement. It should make for some interesting times at Bedford.

Thanks for that, genuinely surprised.

But aren't those quoted 'engine' power figures calculated from the measured at-the-wheels power output using assumptions on power loss in the transmission etc. for each car? Do the manufacturers supply a figure for the losses or are they just guessed?

They rolling roaded them at a reputable location - nothing to do with quoted power from thw manufacturers

[Tony*T3]

Does the mount tune kit come with a can of matt black paint and a brush?