RFL HIGHWAY ROBBERY MODAY MORNING RANT!
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As far as the new vehicle excise costs go this must be generating billions in extra revenue for the government the truly astronomical icreases in duty on "heavy emmision" vehicles" is unbeliveable £435 to tax a diesel range rover! coupled to the rises in fuel prices and the tax discs they have stolen off of the motor trade by the cancelation of refunds for dealers (theft IMO).
I wouldnt mind if you could see the improvement in the roads and infastructure but they dont even maintain what we have,on the contrary when we need more roads they are actively making roads narrower increasing the number of speed humps and scameras plus particularly in our area making two lane junctions single lanes and dual carrigeways in already congested areas into single lanes plus a cycle lane how is this forward thinking? Are they just trying to make us so fed up we stop driving? The car is really starting to become something to be discouraged I feel, perhaps its me just moaning on a Monday!
Perhaps it hasnt occured to the MPs who think these ideas up the country would NOT survive without motor generated industry and taxes, the French wouldnt put up with it!
I wouldnt mind if you could see the improvement in the roads and infastructure but they dont even maintain what we have,on the contrary when we need more roads they are actively making roads narrower increasing the number of speed humps and scameras plus particularly in our area making two lane junctions single lanes and dual carrigeways in already congested areas into single lanes plus a cycle lane how is this forward thinking? Are they just trying to make us so fed up we stop driving? The car is really starting to become something to be discouraged I feel, perhaps its me just moaning on a Monday!
Perhaps it hasnt occured to the MPs who think these ideas up the country would NOT survive without motor generated industry and taxes, the French wouldnt put up with it!
gary11 said:
£435 to rax a diesel range rover...
It's a tax to discourage the use of such vehicles, however the way I see it is that sort of people who drive 'heavy emission' vehicles are probably wealthy and (up to a point) will be prepared to pay it. So essentially the government is laughing all the way to the bank because they've discovered a new way to generate masses of revenue out of something that a year or so ago was half the price.
gary11 said:
I wouldnt mind if you could see the improvement in the roads and infastructure but they dont even maintain what we have,on the contrary when we need more roads they are actively making roads narrower increasing the number of speed humps and scameras plus particularly in our area making two lane junctions single lanes and dual carrigeways in already congested areas into single lanes plus a cycle lane how is this forward thinking?
This is to encourage people to use public transport and take alternative means of transport. What they don't realise is that public transport is not an option for many, it's expensive and most people would rather sit in their own car than share a bus full of people seriously lacking in social skills. Edited by IROC-Z on Monday 12th April 13:03
Edited by IROC-Z on Monday 12th April 13:05
IROC-Z said:
gary11 said:
£435 to rax a diesel range rover...
It's a tax to discourage the use of such vehicles, however the way I see it is that sort of people who drive 'heavy emission' vehicles are probably wealthy and (up to a point) will be prepared to pay it. So essentially the government is laughing all the way to the bank because they've discovered a new way to generate masses of revenue out of something that a year or so ago was half the price.
gary11 said:
I wouldnt mind if you could see the improvement in the roads and infastructure but they dont even maintain what we have,on the contrary when we need more roads they are actively making roads narrower increasing the number of speed humps and scameras plus particularly in our area making two lane junctions single lanes and dual carrigeways in already congested areas into single lanes plus a cycle lane how is this forward thinking?
This is to encourage people to use public transport and take alternative means of transport. What they don't realise is that public transport is not an option for many, it's expensive and most people would rather sit in their own car than share a bus full of people seriously lacking in social skills. Edited by IROC-Z on Monday 12th April 13:03
I agree we could not last a day (my family) without a car, cynicaly I think the government know that,thing is long term its not the way forward for a modern society whose roads are now substandard anyway compared to most of Europe,the negative effect of high fuel prices,high tax,poor roads,congestion,ect generate negativity that costs buisiness up and down the country a fortune its easier for people now frankly to stay in ,they can even get their shopping delivered I mean who would go out in their car on a bank holiday!
Traffic calming ecobabble is not the future IMO
Edited by gary11 on Monday 12th April 13:14
Edited by gary11 on Monday 12th April 13:17
isee said:
I think I will buy a bicycle this week.
it just makes sense.
Doesn't really help with VED though does it? I cycle as much as possible, but I still need a car, and I still need a tax disc. it just makes sense.
Transferring VED to the fuel would have been the answer. I'm still not sure why this didn't happen? Anybody have a sensible argument against it?
cheadle hulme said:
Transferring VED to the fuel would have been the answer. I'm still not sure why this didn't happen? Anybody have a sensible argument against it?
Because instead they can now bugger you on two fronts, via fuel and VED 
Keep whacking up fuel duty, keep whacking up VED.... it's disgusting 
cheadle hulme said:
isee said:
I think I will buy a bicycle this week.
it just makes sense.
Doesn't really help with VED though does it? I cycle as much as possible, but I still need a car, and I still need a tax disc. it just makes sense.
Transferring VED to the fuel would have been the answer. I'm still not sure why this didn't happen? Anybody have a sensible argument against it?
use it pay for it scrap VED
Edited by smallgun on Monday 12th April 13:38
cheadle hulme said:
isee said:
I think I will buy a bicycle this week.
it just makes sense.
Doesn't really help with VED though does it? I cycle as much as possible, but I still need a car, and I still need a tax disc. it just makes sense.
Transferring VED to the fuel would have been the answer. I'm still not sure why this didn't happen? Anybody have a sensible argument against it?
Mr Gear said:
If you're whinging about fuel costs or tax disc prices, you are driving the wrong vehicle. We'd all like to drive Range Rovers, but because I can't afford the tax disc or the fuel or the servicing, I don't drive one.
b
ks. He's moaning about being bent over and arse raped (again) by the govt on the basis of a lie (Plant food gas emissions). cheadle hulme said:
isee said:
I think I will buy a bicycle this week.
it just makes sense.
Doesn't really help with VED though does it? I cycle as much as possible, but I still need a car, and I still need a tax disc. it just makes sense.
Transferring VED to the fuel would have been the answer. I'm still not sure why this didn't happen? Anybody have a sensible argument against it?
Diderot said:
Mr Gear said:
If you're whinging about fuel costs or tax disc prices, you are driving the wrong vehicle. We'd all like to drive Range Rovers, but because I can't afford the tax disc or the fuel or the servicing, I don't drive one.
bks. He's moaning about being bent over and arse raped (again) by the govt on the basis of a lie (Plant food gas emissions). 
Mr Gear said:
We'd all like to drive Range Rovers.......
Just for the record, no we wouldn't.Towns are clogged with these oversize vehicles and the outside lane of the motorway seems to be where the rest of them live.
IMO the gov't could usefully tax vehicles by weight as well as emissions.
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