Mate has a Clocked Focus - and wants to sell!
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Last year a mate bought a (just over) 3yr old Diesel Focus from a pukka used car trader. Receipt says "mileage cannot be guaranteed" in the small print.
Had 34k on the clock and a fresh MOT showing this. No service book with the car.
Mate did some kind of HPI check that didn't show mileage. All clear.
Fast forward a year, mate wants to sell:
Buyer interested does a HPI check, comes back as having 133,000 miles. Mate does 2 other checks and they have both 133k recorded by what I assume is the leasing company - date is pre mate's purchase.
Has he been had? Any comeback? Was the car misrepresented?
I find it unlikely a trader would buy a car without doing appropriate checks so think the trader either knew or did the clocking. Even so, I don't think there's anything he can do.
Had 34k on the clock and a fresh MOT showing this. No service book with the car.
Mate did some kind of HPI check that didn't show mileage. All clear.
Fast forward a year, mate wants to sell:
Buyer interested does a HPI check, comes back as having 133,000 miles. Mate does 2 other checks and they have both 133k recorded by what I assume is the leasing company - date is pre mate's purchase.
Has he been had? Any comeback? Was the car misrepresented?
I find it unlikely a trader would buy a car without doing appropriate checks so think the trader either knew or did the clocking. Even so, I don't think there's anything he can do.
I am sure some of the learned trade brethren will confirm or deny but there are several types of HPI check and the cheap ones are that for a reason as they hold no guarantees etc. There are some that would have a comeback I think but if your mate did it on the cheap then I suspect he will just have to suck it up.
If he is feeling lucky he could try it on with the original garage etc but I think his chances are slimmer than a slim thing on slimfast!
If he is feeling lucky he could try it on with the original garage etc but I think his chances are slimmer than a slim thing on slimfast!
Dave_ST220 said:
I would think tuff s
t. Why didn't they HPI it themselves??!!
He did it was some kind of SMS check that didn't show mileage.t. Why didn't they HPI it themselves??!!pilchardthecat said:
was8v said:
pukka used car trader
There's a contradiction in termsAs I thought then, he has been done.
Edited by was8v on Tuesday 13th April 14:16
hairyben said:
was8v said:
As I thought then, he has been done.
Has he? Did he buy it with his eyes closed?A 3 year old diesel hack with no S/H and below av miles?
Alarm bells?
The car doesn't look like its covered 133k. Very few stone chips, drivers seat bolster / pedals / steering wheel / gear knob did't look at all worn.
He just trusted the trader in this case when he said it was most likely on a long life service plan and was probably due a service soon. He has heard me say my girlfriends golf will go up to 20k /2yrs between services.
Yes it could have been anyone between the leasing company and the forecourt my mate bought it from that clocked it. If it was clocked at all - it could still be an admin error but not much he can do about that.
Edited by was8v on Tuesday 13th April 14:38
was8v said:
hairyben said:
was8v said:
As I thought then, he has been done.
Has he? Did he buy it with his eyes closed?A 3 year old diesel hack with no S/H and below av miles?
Alarm bells?
The car doesn't look like its covered 133k. Very few stone chips, drivers seat bolster / pedals / steering wheel / gear knob did't look at all worn.
He just trusted the trader in this case when he said it was most likely on a long life service plan and was probably due a service soon. He has heard me say my girlfriends golf will go up to 20k /2yrs between services.
Yes it could have been anyone between the leasing company and the forecourt my mate bought it from that clocked it. If it was clocked at all - it could still be an admin error but not much he can do about that.
Edited by was8v on Tuesday 13th April 14:38
But J.H.C. they saw him coming. Next time take a mate whose into cars.
pdV6 said:
33k on a 3yo Focus sounds about right for a private car.
133k on the same 3yo Focus sounds too high even for a repmobile; surely it would have been shifted on sooner (with full paperwork) to retain some value?
The "lost" service history would prove it, could it not be reissued by ford etc? "Lost" S/H and a mileage "mistake"?133k on the same 3yo Focus sounds too high even for a repmobile; surely it would have been shifted on sooner (with full paperwork) to retain some value?
Pull the other one.
40k PA is not uncommon these days for the busy rep.
Hasn't it just been round-the-clock rather than clocked?
Does a Focus have a 5 figure odometer (excluding the 10ths) so 99,999 then it rolls over. The trader will have known the mileage and just played on the fact that some punter would see 33,000 hence he's not warranted the mileage.
Does a Focus have a 5 figure odometer (excluding the 10ths) so 99,999 then it rolls over. The trader will have known the mileage and just played on the fact that some punter would see 33,000 hence he's not warranted the mileage.
Workshy Fop said:
Hasn't it just been round-the-clock rather than clocked?
Does a Focus have a 5 figure odometer (excluding the 10ths) so 99,999 then it rolls over. The trader will have known the mileage and just played on the fact that some punter would see 33,000 hence he's not warranted the mileage.
Cars exist new that have 5 figure odos? My smart has such a crap dashboard that the stalk gets hot when the headlights are turned on, but it still has a 6 figure odometer (that is about to roll over to 200k).Does a Focus have a 5 figure odometer (excluding the 10ths) so 99,999 then it rolls over. The trader will have known the mileage and just played on the fact that some punter would see 33,000 hence he's not warranted the mileage.
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