2011 Mustang GT matches BMW M3

[jbi]

This was pointed out to me on another website and though it might be of interest to you fella's.

Power

BMW M3 4.0 Litre V8 414hp
Mustang GT 5.0 Litre V8 412hp

Weight

BMW M3 3562lbs
Mustang GT 3522lbs

0-60

BMW M3 4.3 seconds
Mustang GT 4.4 seconds

1/4 mile

BMW M3 12.7 seconds @ 111.3mph
Mustang GT 12.7 seconds @ 111.3mph

Braking 60-0

BMW M3 105 feet
Mustang GT 104 feet

Skidpad

BMW M3 .97g
Mustang GT .97g

Pretty evenly matched but the kicker (at least in the USA) is that the mustang retails for $28,180 less than the BMW

could you justify the extra cash?

and more importantly does that saving translate on importing to this country?

Edited by jbi on Saturday 17th April 09:09

[scarebus]

M3 0-60mph in 4.3sec...... yeah right!

[Boshly]

Ironically considering the above they are still different cars, although IMHO the M3 is heading towards GT rather than out and out sportscar. M3 will be far better put together (though the Mustang is far from bad) and M3 has better materials (questionable on 4.6 mustang will be interesting to see 5.0 upgraded interior).

I would choose the M3 to 'make progress' on country roads and the Mustang to Boulevard cruise, both as long distance tourers would suffice.

However, and even irrespective of purchase price, a Mustang will be heaps cheaper to run and will depreciate less (% & £'s I would suggest).

An 07 Mustang costs £350pa to insure £205pa to tax and £150pa to service until 100k (not 100% on major service interval but it's a long way away and until then oil and filters mainly and Ford parts at that).

I look forward to a side by side test.

[pilchardthecat]

Are they putting the steering wheel on the correct side?

[jbi]

I agree about the materials, there's no question the BMW is screwed together better. The big question though, is the nicer interior and BMW badge worth 28,000 more than the mustang.

In the USA I imagine the mustang will face higher depreciation than the BMW, though thats probably not so much of an issue in this country

Edited by jbi on Saturday 17th April 09:27

[jbi]

pilchardthecat said:

Are they putting the steering wheel on the correct side?

Probably not for this generation no... there is talk of selling the next generation mustang globally though

Edited by jbi on Saturday 17th April 09:28

[Daston]

I wasnt aware the M3 was a sports car!!!

[jbi]

Daston said:

I wasnt aware the M3 was a sports car!!!

It's getting bigger and fatter with every iteration...

so really if you want a light sporty car rather than a grunty GT, then you might have to look to america in future?

[Beyond Rational]

Some data missing;

BMW M3 4.0 Litre V8 295 lb/ft
Mustang GT 5.0 Litre V8 390 lb/ft

[Gun]

Will be interesting to see these two head to head, I really like the look of the new Mustang as well. Ford would sell loads of Mustangs over here if they offered right hand drive and priced them like they do in the States.

[Plotloss]

jbi said:

This was pointed out to me on another website and though it might be of interest to you fella's.

Power

BMW M3 4.0 Litre V8 414hp
Mustang GT 5.0 Litre V8 412hp

Weight

BMW M3 3562lbs
Mustang GT 3522lbs

0-60

BMW M3 4.3 seconds
Mustang GT 4.4 seconds

1/4 mile

BMW M3 12.7 seconds @ 111.3mph
Mustang GT 12.7 seconds @ 111.3mph

Braking 60-0

BMW M3 105 feet
Mustang GT 104 feet

Skidpad

BMW M3 .97g
Mustang GT .97g

Pretty evenly matched but the kicker (at least in the USA) is that the mustang retails for $28,180 less than the BMW

could you justify the extra cash?

and more importantly does that saving translate on importing to this country?

Edited by jbi on Saturday 17th April 09:09

Now add corners.

[jbi]

mustang is pretty good on the racetrack apparently.

It leaves the independently sprung camaro in the dust, though it's probably not going to keep up with an M3 without modifications

[sunbeam_alpine]

Mod's - for fks sake hide this thread before the cheese-eating biscuit-dunking Subaru and M3-beater sees it!

Or should I be feeling a whooooosh about now?

Edit: To the idiot who replied to my post about milking Australians on THAT other thread - you're supposed to be trying the females you fool! Where do you think milk comes from?

Edited by sunbeam_alpine on Saturday 17th April 10:11

[pilchardthecat]

jbi said:

pilchardthecat said:

Are they putting the steering wheel on the correct side?

Probably not for this generation no... there is talk of selling the next generation mustang globally though

Talk, meh.

[g3org3y]

Have they started using independant rear suspension on the Mustang yet?

[jayfish]

Plotloss said:

jbi said:

This was pointed out to me on another website and though it might be of interest to you fella's.

Power

BMW M3 4.0 Litre V8 414hp
Mustang GT 5.0 Litre V8 412hp

Weight

BMW M3 3562lbs
Mustang GT 3522lbs

0-60

BMW M3 4.3 seconds
Mustang GT 4.4 seconds

1/4 mile

BMW M3 12.7 seconds @ 111.3mph
Mustang GT 12.7 seconds @ 111.3mph

Braking 60-0

BMW M3 105 feet
Mustang GT 104 feet

Skidpad

BMW M3 .97g
Mustang GT .97g

Pretty evenly matched but the kicker (at least in the USA) is that the mustang retails for $28,180 less than the BMW

could you justify the extra cash?

and more importantly does that saving translate on importing to this country?

Edited by jbi on Saturday 17th April 09:09

Now add corners.

See the cornering G in skidpad section

[Fartgalen]

"Now add corners".... .. that old chestnut !

[Idiot Gimp Boy]

Outright cornering g has very little to do with handling and agility. These figures paint a very crude picture. It's easy to extract big power from a V8 car and fit it with huge brakes, but people who know performance cars realise that it's the final couple of per cent that make all the difference in terms of feel, delicacy, balance and consistency of controls. In all of these areas the Mustang has, to date, proved sorely deficient.

Edited by Idiot Gimp Boy on Saturday 17th April 11:32

[Shropshiremike]

scarebus said:

M3 0-60mph in 4.3sec...... yeah right!

Autocar managed a 4.7 in theirs

[vz-r_dave]

Idiot Gimp Boy said:

Outright cornering g has very little to do with handling and agility. These figures paint a very crude picture. It's easy to extract big power from a V8 car and fit it with huge brakes, but people who know performance cars realise that it's the final couple of per cent that make all the difference in terms of feel, delicacy, balance and consistency of controls. In all of these areas the Mustang has, to date, proved sorely deficient.

Edited by Idiot Gimp Boy on Saturday 17th April 11:32

lol but its 28K less.

I could spend 10K on the handling and it would run rings around the M3 and still be 18K less