Motoring Manifestos for the Three Parties In A Nutshell!
Discussion
LuS1fer said:
Last i heard the Lib Dems were not going to invest in roads at all and were going to put it all into public transport. I'm afraid that automatically loses them my vote.
not investing at all!? that's a bit worrying.. potholes will just get bigger and bigger ( on other hand it gives me an excuse now to get a land rover again 
) I've had a quick look, but feel free to add anything I've missed.
Conservative:
Britain has the chance to lead the world in making our transport system greener. So we will introduce incentives for electricity network operators to establish a new national car recharging network, making it much easier for drivers to move to electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles. We will support sustainable travel initiatives that work best for local communities by:
- giving the concerns of cyclists much greater priority;
- encouraging partnerships between bus operators and local authorities; and,
- helping people cut down on work-related travel.
We will stop central government funding for new fixed speed cameras, and switch to more effective ways to make our roads safer, including authorising ‘drugalyser’ technology for use in testing for drug-driving. We will make companies that dig up our roads accountable for the congestion they cause and crack down on rogue clampers. Councils will get more powers to get traffic flowing more smoothly.
We will consult on the introduction of a ‘fair fuel Stabiliser’. This would cut fuel duty when oil prices rise, and vice versa. It would ensure families, businesses and the whole British economy are less exposed to volatile oil markets, and that there is a more stable environment for low carbon investment.
Labour:
Through our investment, Labour has put Britain at the forefront of electric and low-carbon vehicle manufacturing. To promote the rapid take-up of electric and low-carbon cars, we will ensure there are 100,000 electric vehicle charging points by the end of the next Parliament.
Tackling road congestion is a key Labour priority. We will extend hard-shoulder running on motorways, alongside targeted motorway widening including on the M25. Too much disruption is caused by local road works: we will increase tenfold the penalties on utilities who allow work to overrun. We rule out the introduction of national road pricing in the next Parliament.
LibDem:
Our planned expansion of public transport will provide much-needed alternatives to private cars, and cut carbon emissions. However, in many places there will always be a need for car travel, so we need to ensure that it is as environmentally friendly as possible.
We will:
• Work through the EU for a zero emissions target for all new cars by 2040 and extend targets to other vehicles.
• Undertake preparations for the introduction of a system of road pricing in a second parliament. Any such system would be revenue-neutral for motorists, with revenue from cars used to abolish Vehicle Excise Duty and reduce fuel duty, helping those in rural areas who have no alternatives to road travel. Some of the revenue from lorries would be used to fund further extensions of high speed rail through the UK Infrastructure Bank.
• Introduce a rural fuel discount scheme which would allow a reduced rate of fuel duty to be paid in remote rural areas, as is allowed under EU law.
UKIP:
Roads
Use funds released from leaving the EU on select new bypasses, road improvements, safety and widening schemes
Introduce a 'Britdisc' (vignette) on foreign lorries not paying anything for British roads, and crack down on 'killer lorries' (overladen or dangerous)
Give back a ‘Windfall Return’ on fuel duty above a set world oil price, where windfall Government receipts are returned to the motorist over time through fuel tax cuts
Oppose EU proposals for raising the Gross Laden Weight ( GLW ) for lorries to 60 Tonnes and oppose Longer Heavier Vehicles (LHVs) of unwieldy 25 metres. We will encourage a long term programme of shifting freight to rail for longer distances, as the majority of the British public (86%) want
Repeal EU directives such as The Working Time Directive and the new Road Transport Directive, Daylight Running Directive and Control of Noise and Vibration Regulation
Oppose EU’s Galileo satellite 'spy in the sky' technology programme for road pricing
Require new insurance discs to also be displayed on windscreens to tackle over 1 million uninsured drivers
End the 'highway robbery' of unfair fines on motorists by returning to first principles on car parking ( to keep traffic moving not be a tax generator ) and make speed cameras democratically accountable, and remove them where they serve no use.
Remove the £15 surcharge on motorists for minor offences such as not wearing seatbelts for compensation to victims of crime as a nonsense
Support electric vehicles and the battery charging infrastructure they need
Consult on raising the motorway speed limit to 80mph to suit modern reality
Legislate to introduce a crime of Vehicular Manslaughter, where for those whose excessively dangerous driving makes death on the road a near certainty
Use US-style traffic schools for the education of bad drivers
Oppose the metrification of British roads and speed limits
Introduce a simple form of 'bus franchising', particularly for local and rural buses, to deliver better value for the taxpayer and eliminate unfair competitive practices
Allow councils to offer discount public transport cards (rail/bus) if they wish to
Invest in tram/Light Rail schemes where they have strong local support
Seek to improve the quality of taxi services but without excessive regulation
Support measures to improve motorcycle safety whilst supporting its freedoms. We will oppose EU proposals for daytime lights for all vehicles as dangerous
Support responsible pedal cycling but have zero tolerance on dangerous practices such as running red lights. We will consult on proposals for cyclists to display a cheap 'Cycledisc' to deter theft and give 3rd party insurance for car damage.
Also, lrs777 got an answer from UKIP about car tuning, which is probably worth mentioning:
"UKIP (and only UKIP) can save the aftermarket tuning-industry from destruction by eventual "harmonisation" with continental norms and standardisation - like the German TÜV-system - because the removal of the EU from Britain is the only way to do this, and only UKIP is prepared to do it.
The UK's handful of "MEP's" - and a government composed of any one, or more, of the incumbent pro-EU parties - will be quite incapable of stopping this "harmonisation". There is, as far as I know, no immediate threat of its imposition; but it will surely come, because it will mean a cheaper, more automatic system of surveillance and control, which the EU (and its satellite governments) will leap at.
As a further risk involved, MOT-testers might well be instructed, as part of this "harmonisation", to fail vehicles for featuring modified parts. The EU-legislation could easily be "gold-plated", to achieve this, even if it is not specified in the directive. Nothing is safe from the EU, except independence from it!
Yours sincerely
Nigel Farage"
Conservative:
Britain has the chance to lead the world in making our transport system greener. So we will introduce incentives for electricity network operators to establish a new national car recharging network, making it much easier for drivers to move to electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles. We will support sustainable travel initiatives that work best for local communities by:
- giving the concerns of cyclists much greater priority;
- encouraging partnerships between bus operators and local authorities; and,
- helping people cut down on work-related travel.
We will stop central government funding for new fixed speed cameras, and switch to more effective ways to make our roads safer, including authorising ‘drugalyser’ technology for use in testing for drug-driving. We will make companies that dig up our roads accountable for the congestion they cause and crack down on rogue clampers. Councils will get more powers to get traffic flowing more smoothly.
We will consult on the introduction of a ‘fair fuel Stabiliser’. This would cut fuel duty when oil prices rise, and vice versa. It would ensure families, businesses and the whole British economy are less exposed to volatile oil markets, and that there is a more stable environment for low carbon investment.
Labour:
Through our investment, Labour has put Britain at the forefront of electric and low-carbon vehicle manufacturing. To promote the rapid take-up of electric and low-carbon cars, we will ensure there are 100,000 electric vehicle charging points by the end of the next Parliament.
Tackling road congestion is a key Labour priority. We will extend hard-shoulder running on motorways, alongside targeted motorway widening including on the M25. Too much disruption is caused by local road works: we will increase tenfold the penalties on utilities who allow work to overrun. We rule out the introduction of national road pricing in the next Parliament.
LibDem:
Our planned expansion of public transport will provide much-needed alternatives to private cars, and cut carbon emissions. However, in many places there will always be a need for car travel, so we need to ensure that it is as environmentally friendly as possible.
We will:
• Work through the EU for a zero emissions target for all new cars by 2040 and extend targets to other vehicles.
• Undertake preparations for the introduction of a system of road pricing in a second parliament. Any such system would be revenue-neutral for motorists, with revenue from cars used to abolish Vehicle Excise Duty and reduce fuel duty, helping those in rural areas who have no alternatives to road travel. Some of the revenue from lorries would be used to fund further extensions of high speed rail through the UK Infrastructure Bank.
• Introduce a rural fuel discount scheme which would allow a reduced rate of fuel duty to be paid in remote rural areas, as is allowed under EU law.
UKIP:
Roads
Use funds released from leaving the EU on select new bypasses, road improvements, safety and widening schemes
Introduce a 'Britdisc' (vignette) on foreign lorries not paying anything for British roads, and crack down on 'killer lorries' (overladen or dangerous)
Give back a ‘Windfall Return’ on fuel duty above a set world oil price, where windfall Government receipts are returned to the motorist over time through fuel tax cuts
Oppose EU proposals for raising the Gross Laden Weight ( GLW ) for lorries to 60 Tonnes and oppose Longer Heavier Vehicles (LHVs) of unwieldy 25 metres. We will encourage a long term programme of shifting freight to rail for longer distances, as the majority of the British public (86%) want
Repeal EU directives such as The Working Time Directive and the new Road Transport Directive, Daylight Running Directive and Control of Noise and Vibration Regulation
Oppose EU’s Galileo satellite 'spy in the sky' technology programme for road pricing
Require new insurance discs to also be displayed on windscreens to tackle over 1 million uninsured drivers
End the 'highway robbery' of unfair fines on motorists by returning to first principles on car parking ( to keep traffic moving not be a tax generator ) and make speed cameras democratically accountable, and remove them where they serve no use.
Remove the £15 surcharge on motorists for minor offences such as not wearing seatbelts for compensation to victims of crime as a nonsense
Support electric vehicles and the battery charging infrastructure they need
Consult on raising the motorway speed limit to 80mph to suit modern reality
Legislate to introduce a crime of Vehicular Manslaughter, where for those whose excessively dangerous driving makes death on the road a near certainty
Use US-style traffic schools for the education of bad drivers
Oppose the metrification of British roads and speed limits
Introduce a simple form of 'bus franchising', particularly for local and rural buses, to deliver better value for the taxpayer and eliminate unfair competitive practices
Allow councils to offer discount public transport cards (rail/bus) if they wish to
Invest in tram/Light Rail schemes where they have strong local support
Seek to improve the quality of taxi services but without excessive regulation
Support measures to improve motorcycle safety whilst supporting its freedoms. We will oppose EU proposals for daytime lights for all vehicles as dangerous
Support responsible pedal cycling but have zero tolerance on dangerous practices such as running red lights. We will consult on proposals for cyclists to display a cheap 'Cycledisc' to deter theft and give 3rd party insurance for car damage.
Also, lrs777 got an answer from UKIP about car tuning, which is probably worth mentioning:
"UKIP (and only UKIP) can save the aftermarket tuning-industry from destruction by eventual "harmonisation" with continental norms and standardisation - like the German TÜV-system - because the removal of the EU from Britain is the only way to do this, and only UKIP is prepared to do it.
The UK's handful of "MEP's" - and a government composed of any one, or more, of the incumbent pro-EU parties - will be quite incapable of stopping this "harmonisation". There is, as far as I know, no immediate threat of its imposition; but it will surely come, because it will mean a cheaper, more automatic system of surveillance and control, which the EU (and its satellite governments) will leap at.
As a further risk involved, MOT-testers might well be instructed, as part of this "harmonisation", to fail vehicles for featuring modified parts. The EU-legislation could easily be "gold-plated", to achieve this, even if it is not specified in the directive. Nothing is safe from the EU, except independence from it!
Yours sincerely
Nigel Farage"
Edited by MX7 on Saturday 17th April 12:27
LibDems said:
Work through the EU for a zero emissions target for all new cars by 2040 and extend targets to other vehicles.
ZERO emissions. What planet are these people on? Really. I hate barking statements like this, unless they are going to harness the magical power of gypsy tears I can't see it happening!carreauchompeur said:
LibDems said:
Work through the EU for a zero emissions target for all new cars by 2040 and extend targets to other vehicles.
ZERO emissions. What planet are these people on? Really. I hate barking statements like this, unless they are going to harness the magical power of gypsy tears I can't see it happening!kambites said:
carreauchompeur said:
LibDems said:
Work through the EU for a zero emissions target for all new cars by 2040 and extend targets to other vehicles.
ZERO emissions. What planet are these people on? Really. I hate barking statements like this, unless they are going to harness the magical power of gypsy tears I can't see it happening!carreauchompeur said:
Well, exactly- They want us all in a fleet of Gwizzes, therefore barking. I mostly dislike the way they forget about what's at the other end of the power lead!
I don't see any evidence that they forget about what's at the other end of the power lead. I'm sure they all have policies on power generation as well. MarJay said:
The lib dems want to crack down on construction and use regs which will adversely affect anyone with a slightly louder than normal exhaust and other things.
Conservative FTW.
I don't agree with much the LibDems say.Conservative FTW.
"Some of the revenue from lorries would be used to fund further extensions of high speed rail through the UK Infrastructure Bank."
Get the money from wherever you like, but additional charges to commercial transport means that we will all pay more for everything.
"Introduce a rural fuel discount scheme which would allow a reduced rate of fuel duty to be paid in remote rural areas, as is allowed under EU law."
There are pros and cons to living in a rural areas. Is there going to be some sort of concession for people living in urban areas too? I can imagine that those rural areas might stop being so rural when floods of people drive for miles just to fill up their tanks.
Edited by MX7 on Saturday 17th April 12:00
Reading through the above, thanks for the information.
I believe a Conservative vote best suits in my eyes as,
A; it does offer some hope, of if not perfect, for a realistic aproach to the car.
B; it would not be a wasted vote for a smaller party, however I do agree with many of the UKIP sentiments... CAMERON TAKE NOTE!
So far they are offering the best package..
Lib dems are really strong in some areas, well done Mr Klegg, but so weak in others... a bit more balance please....
I do believe in reducing emissions as it is possible e.g. look at the 320D power v.s. emissions over the last 10 years.
but the fact is evoloution is required not pointless targets...
Seperately I was shocked at our NON UK spending amounts debts and paterns, we need to stop this in favour of sorting the UK quicker to allow this foreign investment to continue in the longer picture, enabling the support of the global economy e.g. 1/2 the EU support, releases 8.2bn p.a less than 10% of our national debt or more scarily only 1/5 of the UK's annual debt interest?
Are there any open figures re the return on invesment for the UK against its onvolvement in the EU?
I would also look to transfer some of our debt out (might be being too simples here) if we owe America 10bn on one loan and France owes us 11bn, I would sell the 11bn to America to off set ours?
Sorry you got me started on coffee number 3
I believe a Conservative vote best suits in my eyes as,
A; it does offer some hope, of if not perfect, for a realistic aproach to the car.
B; it would not be a wasted vote for a smaller party, however I do agree with many of the UKIP sentiments... CAMERON TAKE NOTE!
So far they are offering the best package..
Lib dems are really strong in some areas, well done Mr Klegg, but so weak in others... a bit more balance please....
I do believe in reducing emissions as it is possible e.g. look at the 320D power v.s. emissions over the last 10 years.
but the fact is evoloution is required not pointless targets...
Seperately I was shocked at our NON UK spending amounts debts and paterns, we need to stop this in favour of sorting the UK quicker to allow this foreign investment to continue in the longer picture, enabling the support of the global economy e.g. 1/2 the EU support, releases 8.2bn p.a less than 10% of our national debt or more scarily only 1/5 of the UK's annual debt interest?
Are there any open figures re the return on invesment for the UK against its onvolvement in the EU?
I would also look to transfer some of our debt out (might be being too simples here) if we owe America 10bn on one loan and France owes us 11bn, I would sell the 11bn to America to off set ours?
Sorry you got me started on coffee number 3
ZOLLAR said:
LuS1fer said:
Last i heard the Lib Dems were not going to invest in roads at all and were going to put it all into public transport. I'm afraid that automatically loses them my vote.
not investing at all!? that's a bit worrying.. potholes will just get bigger and bigger ( on other hand it gives me an excuse now to get a land rover again ) Quick google shows:
Labour:
* Building a new high-speed rail line linking North and South.
* Improving commuter services and electrifying new rail lines.
* Completing the east-west Crossrail line in London
* Targeted motorway widening, including the M25
* No road pricing
* Supporting a third runway for Heathrow
* Ensuring there are 100,000 electric vehicle charging points by end of next Parliament
Conservative:
* Building a high-speed rail link connecting London, Birmingham, Manchester and Leeds with the Continent
* Blocking moves for a third runway at Heathrow Airport
* Blocking plans for second runways at Stansted and Gatwick airports
* Report Air Passenger Duty
* Improving Britain's railways
* Cutting congestion and making Britain's roads safer
* Making local transport greener
Lib Dem:
* Investing £140 million in a bus scrappage scheme to remove old, polluting buses
* Cutting rail fares
* Making Network Rail refund a third of the ticket price where replacement bus services are used
* Switching traffic from road to rail by investing in local rail improvements
* Canceling plans for a third runway at Heathrow and any expansion of other airports in the south east
* Undertaking preparations for the introduction of road pricing in a second parliament
* Introducing a rural fuel discount scheme
Labour Link:
http://www.labour.org.uk/manifesto/rebuilding-our-...
Tory Link:
http://www.conservatives.com/Policy/Where_we_stand...
Lib Dem:
http://www.libdems.org.uk/our_manifesto.aspx
Super Veloce said:
Reading through the above, thanks for the information.
I believe a Conservative vote best suits in my eyes as,
A; it does offer some hope, of if not perfect, for a realistic aproach to the car.
B; it would not be a wasted vote for a smaller party, however I do agree with many of the UKIP sentiments... CAMERON TAKE NOTE!
But as you won't vote for UKIP & by not taking note he can maximise his chance of getting votes from others who may be opposed to that, why should he ?I believe a Conservative vote best suits in my eyes as,
A; it does offer some hope, of if not perfect, for a realistic aproach to the car.
B; it would not be a wasted vote for a smaller party, however I do agree with many of the UKIP sentiments... CAMERON TAKE NOTE!
MarJay said:
The lib dems want to crack down on construction and use regs which will adversely affect anyone with a slightly louder than normal exhaust and other things.
Not quite. That's more like the Labour plans. The Lib Dems would actually do what we've been clamouring for on this site for a while - replace VED with a tax based on how much you actually drive. Haven't seen anything in their manifesto about not dealing with potholes either - that's the Greens' policy (who want to stop all investment in the roads and spend it all on buses instead - so expect to see a lot of buses pointing skyward out of giant potholes in Brighton's roads if Caroline Lucas gets in).Richard-G said:
i'll be voting conservative, but a lot of ukip's policies appeal, maybe cameron can take heed! Seriously though, anyone who has travelled up the m1 towards leeds lately knows that the current 'leaders' have NO idea
UKIP's plans are based on Daily Wail scaremongering and just serve to eat into the tory vote.Does Nigel Farage think the standardised German TUV test will destroy the UK tuning and modifications industry?
He'd better get on the phone to AMG, Ruf and Alpina then
Gassing Station | General Gassing [Archive] | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff