RE: SOTW: MG ZT+ 190
Friday 30th April 2010

SOTW: MG ZT+ 190

Shed spies a bargain-bucket example of MG's sporty take on the Rover 75



Shed has gone all modern this week, with possibly the newest SOTW ever - and a very rare foray into the 21st century with this (gasp) 52-plate MG ZT.

Now, the ZT might not have had the most illustrious background or glamourous sire - the rather fuddy-duddy Rover 75 is not exactly an obvious choice for a sports saloon and a newly independent MG Rover only recently divorced from BMW was hardly brimming with funds for new models.

Yet somehow the MG ZT is more than the sum of its parts. The Peter Stevens styling (he's the man who shaped the original McLaren F1 don'tcha know) is clearly a shoestring effort, but does a fair job of tidying up the 75, and Rover's chassis engineers, finally given a brief to do something sporty, proved that the 75 could be turned into a pretty sharp handler with only relatively minor tweaks to the suspension.


The 2.5-litre KV6 engine took to the sporting saloon role pretty well, too, mustering a respectable 188bhp - good enough for a 7.8secs sprint to 60mph and a 140mph top speed. It was eager and keen to rev, too.

Best of all, the ZT was far enough up the MG range to (mostly) avoid falling into the grubby mitts of the Barry Boys and so, unlike its ZR and ZS siblings, the majority of ZTs have so far largely escaped trial-by-modification.

Of course, if you really want a fast MG ZT you'll have to go for the 4.6-litre V8, rear-drive 260 model - but you're not going to find one of them for less than a grand, and there are hardly any about anyway.


It's pretty hard to find a ZT 190 for this price, too - most of a similar age and mileage seem to be fetching at least £2k. So it's a bargain of the century for one of the last-ever genuinely British high-volume performance cars to be produced, right?

Er, maybe. There is a bit of a catch (well two, actually). This particular MG, well-specced and relatively reasonable mileage as it is, has at some point been declared a category C write-off, although the vendor says the damage was purely cosmetic. More ominously there is also no history with the car.


But don't let us put you off - if you're feeling brave or have a good eye for the oily bits, then this MG could be quite a find. It's a gamble, then, but go in with your eyes open and this sporty slice of latter-day British motoring history could well be a bit of a steal.

Advert is reproduced below

MG ZT 190 +, 75,000 miles, £1000
MOT - 11/12/10
TAX - 30/06/10
75000 miles (will increase daily)
For sale is my mg ZT 190+, the car has previously been registered as cat c beacause of damage to the passenger side wing, bonnet, bumper and headlight.

All repair work was done by the previous owner to a very high standard using original parts and you cannot tell it has been damaged before.

There was no mechanical damage to the car just cosmetic.

All the electrics work as they should and this has the rare option of cruise control which makes longer journeys that bit more relaxing.

The individual climate control works perfectly and blows hot and cold just as it should.
The car is completely standard apart from a stanless steel replacement exhaust which was also done by the previous owner, its no louder than standard and looks pretty much the same as a standard unit but will last for many years longer than standard dealer sourced exhaust.

There is also an aftermarket headunit with bluetooth connectivity for your mobile phone so you can use it handsfree which works very well and comes in handy.

The body work of the car is in very good condition for its age with no sign of rust and very few stone chips on the front, I wash the car twice a week to keep it looking clean and tidy.

I have priced the car so low as it is due a timing belt change and I think a wheel bearing may need changing as a slight rumble can be heard when driving at motorway speeds, the tyres are also nearing the legal limit

There is no history with the car, and only one key!

The car drives perfectly fine, Its my daily driver and I use it every weekend to drive to bradford and back (200 mile round trip) its large,comfortable,powerfull and surprisingly economical.

Im looking to sell asap as ive taken delivery of a new car.

Im looking for £1000 no offers

Car is located in washington tyne and wear

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Strawman

Original Poster:

6,463 posts

233 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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Was the chassis for this based on the contemporary BMW 5 series or 3 series ?

louismchuge

1,644 posts

210 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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A cat C with no history? laugh

KenBlocksPants

7,470 posts

210 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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louismchuge said:
A cat C with no history? laugh
agreed, although worth a punt if you can get it for under the 1k asking and you know your way around a motor?


fathomfive

11,123 posts

216 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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By the time you've done the cambelt, 4 new tyres and sorted a potentially knackered bearing, wouldn't you find yourself somewhat closer to the price of a non CAT C, historied model? Would the difference be enough to make it a worthwhile purchase?

flakeypaul

436 posts

216 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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Won't this £1000 car cost the best part of £500 to tax next year? I can see a lot of big-engined sheds suffering from this problem - who's going to want to pay half a cars value every year to the taxman?

Belfast Boy

855 posts

208 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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Of course, if you really want a fast MG ZT you'll have to go for the 4.6-litre V8, rear-drive 260 model - but you're not going to find one of them for less than a grand, and there are hardly any about anyway.

Other than that I am not interested!


Shed, ahem -FAIL!

anonymous-user

80 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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No, won't be eligible for that tax level (too old).

ExPat2B

2,159 posts

226 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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fathomfive said:
By the time you've done the cambelt, 4 new tyres and sorted a potentially knackered bearing, wouldn't you find yourself somewhat closer to the price of a non CAT C, historied model? Would the difference be enough to make it a worthwhile purchase?
4 part worn tyres : £ 100

The Cambelt.......well by all accounts its a bit of a pig to do. If you are very competent it needs about 100 pounds of parts ( belt + tensioner ) and some special tools.

Bearing is about 30 pounds.

So if you know you way round a car and have the time there is a real bargain to be had. I would be going over the repairs with a fine tooth comb though.

Mostyn

13 posts

194 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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The CAM belt change is the likely killer. My MG ZS180 with the same KV6 engine had its belts for the quad cam changed last year. I can easily see that this job will cost £1000 for a dealer to perform.

_dobbo_

14,619 posts

274 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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Why on earth would you take a £1k shed to a dealer?

flakeypaul

436 posts

216 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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DR10 said:
No, won't be eligible for that tax level (too old).
I thought it was anything first registered after March 1st 2001 was eligible for the full tax rip-off (with the top two brackets temporarily held back until 2011 for cars registered before 2006?)

McAndy

16,066 posts

203 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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Good vehicle, bad example. Fail for me I'm afraid smash

Oddball RS

1,757 posts

244 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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Why would anyone take this to a dealer? there aren't any delears anyway they are all independant now - those that still exist.

And a Grand, are you havign a laugh?

williamp

20,205 posts

299 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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This should have been last weeks- St georges day, and a BRG British car etc etc

But a car with no history (regardless of cat C or not) I'd give it a wide birth.

Jakg

4,000 posts

194 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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New Key - £150.

90k service will be about a grand getting the belts replaced (3 belts in this one no less).

4x new 225/45/18 tyres - £300.
Strawman said:
Was the chassis for this based on the contemporary BMW 5 series or 3 series ?
Nope, they tried an old 5-series but it didn't work that well.

Has a (surprisingly stiff) BMW chassis.



Very good car though (I recently bought a Diesel one), but the petrol is expensive to run - however if you can afford the tax and insurance, add an LPG kit and you get a very good car...

If only it wasn't FWD!

Garlick

40,601 posts

266 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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Even I wouldn't buy this....and I'll buy anything biggrin

Mr Will

13,719 posts

232 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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Riggers, I've found next week's shed for you: it's a Ferrari!

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

216 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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williamp said:
This should have been last weeks- St georges day, and a BRG British car etc etc

But a car with no history (regardless of cat C or not) I'd give it a wide birth.
Is history really all that important on a cheap motor??

If it drives straight and everything seems ok, then why not. Run it for a year or two and flog it for £800.


t84

6,941 posts

220 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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Nice thread, oddly enough I posted a thread asking for info on the ZT-T recently... smile

Steamer

14,139 posts

239 months

Friday 30th April 2010
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Mr Will said:
Riggers, I've found next week's shed for you: it's a Ferrari!
Holy smoke! That looks like my cooking.

As for this weeks shed - please don't try to make me like Rovers!!! :yuk: