advice on seized engine
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Hi all,
Mate of mine bought an A3 2.0TDI two weeks ago and the engine seized the other day due to lack of oil. No low oil light or oil pressure light came on just a service light after it had seized. Car has a full Audi service history so does he have any comeback at all and who should he be speaking to. Also if he needs a replacement engine will any of the groups TDI engines (bkd engine I think) fit?
Any advice is appreciated.
Mate of mine bought an A3 2.0TDI two weeks ago and the engine seized the other day due to lack of oil. No low oil light or oil pressure light came on just a service light after it had seized. Car has a full Audi service history so does he have any comeback at all and who should he be speaking to. Also if he needs a replacement engine will any of the groups TDI engines (bkd engine I think) fit?
Any advice is appreciated.
Difficult one. It should be sold fit for purpose, and sometimes they will offer a wananty on the engine and drive train.
However, he had the car for 2 weeks and it seized due to lack of oil - which was his responsibility. I think you would have a very difficult case arguing it in court. Be negligence on the owners behalf.
I guess it wants a new engine, or the old one un-seizing. Someone far more knowelgable than me will tell you if its possible to get going again, but it has to be worth a go over buying a whole new lump.
However, he had the car for 2 weeks and it seized due to lack of oil - which was his responsibility. I think you would have a very difficult case arguing it in court. Be negligence on the owners behalf.
I guess it wants a new engine, or the old one un-seizing. Someone far more knowelgable than me will tell you if its possible to get going again, but it has to be worth a go over buying a whole new lump.
lordlee said:
He has done 600. Yes he should have checked it but why does it have a low oil level light and why didn't it come on. It also has a oil pressure warning that didn't come on even after it partially seized.
Did it come on with the ignition - if not, has it been disconnected to hide a fault?PeteG said:
lordlee said:
He has done 600. Yes he should have checked it but why does it have a low oil level light and why didn't it come on. It also has a oil pressure warning that didn't come on even after it partially seized.
Did it come on with the ignition - if not, has it been disconnected to hide a fault?Of course this is the dealers responsibility, unless our man has removed the oil himself or ignored warnings of a developing fault, whether there at delivery or not. 600 miles and 2 weeks, the oil level is not the owners responsibility other than possibly to have checked it maybe once by now? But even then, it should have required either none, or a small top up.
You buy a car from a dealer, you do 600 miles in a fortnight, and the engine seizes. Every car dealer I have ever worked for, there would be almost no question of not sorting it, whether the oil had been checked or not since delivery. The car should have had at least some rudimentary checks before handover, if not a short service. What was the oil level upon collection and where did the oil go? Clearly there is a fault, and unless there has been negligence by the driver, SOGA applies.
You buy a car from a dealer, you do 600 miles in a fortnight, and the engine seizes. Every car dealer I have ever worked for, there would be almost no question of not sorting it, whether the oil had been checked or not since delivery. The car should have had at least some rudimentary checks before handover, if not a short service. What was the oil level upon collection and where did the oil go? Clearly there is a fault, and unless there has been negligence by the driver, SOGA applies.
Edited by Balmoral Green on Sunday 9th May 13:35
PeteG said:
lordlee said:
He has done 600. Yes he should have checked it but why does it have a low oil level light and why didn't it come on. It also has a oil pressure warning that didn't come on even after it partially seized.
Did it come on with the ignition - if not, has it been disconnected to hide a fault?If the low oil level warning is the same as other VW/Audi/Skoda cars it resets itself (for the next 100km) when the bonnet is opened, even it the oil is not topped up. (Daft, I know).
I wonder if your mate simply opened the bonnet, checked the oil level, and went, "Nah, that'll be OK," and carried on driving?
I wonder if your mate simply opened the bonnet, checked the oil level, and went, "Nah, that'll be OK," and carried on driving?
bazking69 said:
a) Did your mate actually physically lift the bonnet at any time during his ownership to check the level on the dipstick? I think I know the answer.
b) I personally think your mate is being economic with the truth about what happened building up to the failure. Alot of people are...
Agreed. You can hear when a derv is running silly low on oil. You can hear it three streets away when it's low enough that it will sieze on it.b) I personally think your mate is being economic with the truth about what happened building up to the failure. Alot of people are...
I've seen dervs run on less than a litre of oil in the sump (don't ask
) so to get the oil down to a level it will sieze at, it must have been driving like a burst ball and sounding like a pound of washers in a roses tin.Two things:
1) Personally I can't imagine jumping into an unfamiliar used car and doing 6 miles, let alone 600 without checking all fluids and tyres.
2) Despite the above I'd still expect the dealer to take some responsibility as a reasonable level of oil consumption is usually deemed to be 1 litre per 1000 miles and if the level was correct at the time of delivery it should've gone far further than 600 miles.
1) Personally I can't imagine jumping into an unfamiliar used car and doing 6 miles, let alone 600 without checking all fluids and tyres.
2) Despite the above I'd still expect the dealer to take some responsibility as a reasonable level of oil consumption is usually deemed to be 1 litre per 1000 miles and if the level was correct at the time of delivery it should've gone far further than 600 miles.
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