Frequent oil changes - need to do the filter as well..
Frequent oil changes - need to do the filter as well..
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winshent

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1,174 posts

225 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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I change the oil in my car either after each track day i do (2 - 3) per year, or every 5000 miles. I think the recommended service interval on my car is every 12k.

Do i need to change the filter each time as well.. or can i get away with leaving it in and changing it every other time.

I obviously can afford spending £7 on a filter each time, but find it to be a pain in the butt to change it each time.

ymwoods

2,194 posts

207 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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I change my oil between every 5k and 7k and I ussually just change the filter every 2nd or 3rd time. You do not need to change the filter early just because you changed the oil.

GingerWizard

4,721 posts

228 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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just rinse it out with fresh oil if concerned. Honestly i change it all out though, every 7.5k or there abouts. Its an extra 30 notes or so and a lot of peace of mind.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

234 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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You are doing no harm by not changing it every time you change the oil. Factor in the time it takes to fill the filter on the first start with a fresh filter and you maybe doing less harm.

t11ner

7,630 posts

225 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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TBH I wouldn't (and don't) do it after every trackday but if it's a pain to change, get a better tool to do it with. I'd say do it half as often, but do the full job.


varsas

4,076 posts

232 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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thinfourth2 said:
You are doing no harm by not changing it every time you change the oil. Factor in the time it takes to fill the filter on the first start with a fresh filter and you maybe doing less harm.
On some cars it's possible to fill the filter with oil before you fit it, of course there's lots of cars that's not possible.

Howard-

4,964 posts

232 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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I change the filter every time I change the oil. It costs, what, £5-10 for a filter, and takes 30 seconds to swap smile

GingerWizard

4,721 posts

228 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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varsas said:
thinfourth2 said:
You are doing no harm by not changing it every time you change the oil. Factor in the time it takes to fill the filter on the first start with a fresh filter and you maybe doing less harm.
On some cars it's possible to fill the filter with oil before you fit it, of course there's lots of cars that's not possible.
I was going to say this but i have never encountered a car that you can't pre fill them....

HellDiver

5,708 posts

212 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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GingerWizard said:
I was going to say this but i have never encountered a car that you can't pre fill them....
Apart from every car that uses the paper element filters? Which is most modern cars...

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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HellDiver said:
GingerWizard said:
I was going to say this but i have never encountered a car that you can't pre fill them....
Apart from every car that uses the paper element filters? Which is most modern cars...
Paper element oil filter?!

winshent

Original Poster:

1,174 posts

225 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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t11ner said:
TBH I wouldn't (and don't) do it after every trackday but if it's a pain to change, get a better tool to do it with. I'd say do it half as often, but do the full job.
I dont understand why you wouldnt change it after every track day? If your pushing the engine hard for a full day then doesn't the oil loose some of it lubrication properties?

Edited by winshent on Wednesday 12th May 09:29

bazking69

8,620 posts

220 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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Dave_ST220 said:
HellDiver said:
GingerWizard said:
I was going to say this but i have never encountered a car that you can't pre fill them....
Apart from every car that uses the paper element filters? Which is most modern cars...
Paper element oil filter?!
The screw on metal cannister is virtually obsolete now on modern cars. Has been for years.

Personally I do the filter as well on mine because it is a piece of piss to get to and roll off and costs less than £2. But I appreciate what you mean when oil filters are in a PITA place, made ten times harder when you are doing it on the floor as opposed to a ramp.

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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bazking69 said:
The screw on metal cannister is virtually obsolete now on modern cars. Has been for years.
Well you learn something every day! Any pictures of what is now the norm? The Focus RS the OP refers to will be like mine without doubt-screw on metal canister.

HellDiver

5,708 posts

212 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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My Mondeo is the first "bean tin" type car I've owned. Every other car has had the paper element type.

http://www.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&q=paper%2...


cs02rm0

13,966 posts

221 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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Dave_ST220 said:
bazking69 said:
The screw on metal cannister is virtually obsolete now on modern cars. Has been for years.
Well you learn something every day! Any pictures of what is now the norm? The Focus RS the OP refers to will be like mine without doubt-screw on metal canister.
My Focus ST has a paper element type.

S3_Graham

12,835 posts

229 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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Dave_ST220 said:
HellDiver said:
GingerWizard said:
I was going to say this but i have never encountered a car that you can't pre fill them....
Apart from every car that uses the paper element filters? Which is most modern cars...
Paper element oil filter?!
My 328 has a paper filter in a filter bowl on the top of the engine!!

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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I guess this is what you get for owning cars for 10 years+!!! Way behind the times.

HellDiver

5,708 posts

212 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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Dave_ST220 said:
I guess this is what you get for owning cars for 10 years+!!! Way behind the times.
The Perkins engine on the tractor at home was built in 1948. It has a paper element. biggrin

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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I guess it's a Ford thing then!

HellDiver

5,708 posts

212 months

Wednesday 12th May 2010
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Dave_ST220 said:
I guess it's a Ford thing then!
American I think. The GM US sourced Vauxhall engines still have bean-tin filters until very recently.