How hard is it to use your Indicators ?
Discussion
Turning into a grumpy old man, but always thought indicators were there to inform other road users of your intentions not to be flicked on at the last Nanosecond to cover your back!!! For example why drive all the way around a roundabout with no indicator on only to use the lefthand indicator as you exit.
I can't remember whether I indicate "right" on roundabouts or not - what extra information does it actually give ?
You don't indicate "right" if you are going straight on, so you can't rely on a signal or lack of one to predict what a car will do.
A "left" indicate is obviously beneficial to warn people behind you of your actions, but drivers waiting to enter the roundabout also can't rely on your signal and have to wait until you actually take your exit before pulling out.
You don't indicate "right" if you are going straight on, so you can't rely on a signal or lack of one to predict what a car will do.
A "left" indicate is obviously beneficial to warn people behind you of your actions, but drivers waiting to enter the roundabout also can't rely on your signal and have to wait until you actually take your exit before pulling out.
And the worst people aren't BMW drivers. They are taxi drivers.
It seems being a 'professional' driver means you don't have to bother thinking of anyone other than the person immediately infront of you.
I was following one this morning. Driving along, and just stopped. No indication, no notice. He just slowed down and stopped in the road to let the lady out. When I went past and vented my displeasure with a horn and a w
ker sign, he just looked at me like I was an alien.
It seems being a 'professional' driver means you don't have to bother thinking of anyone other than the person immediately infront of you.
I was following one this morning. Driving along, and just stopped. No indication, no notice. He just slowed down and stopped in the road to let the lady out. When I went past and vented my displeasure with a horn and a w
ker sign, he just looked at me like I was an alien. BOR said:
I can't remember whether I indicate "right" on roundabouts or not - what extra information does it actually give ?
You don't indicate "right" if you are going straight on, so you can't rely on a signal or lack of one to predict what a car will do.
A "left" indicate is obviously beneficial to warn people behind you of your actions, but drivers waiting to enter the roundabout also can't rely on your signal and have to wait until you actually take your exit before pulling out.
The right hand indicator would be benificial to a car waiting at the roundabout to let it know you were actually turning and not going straight ahead.I agree with the rule that you don't move until you are certain what the other car is going to do, but with roundabouts getting smaller and roads wider it can be very difficult to decide whether a car is turning or just hugging the roundabout and going straight on. You don't indicate "right" if you are going straight on, so you can't rely on a signal or lack of one to predict what a car will do.
A "left" indicate is obviously beneficial to warn people behind you of your actions, but drivers waiting to enter the roundabout also can't rely on your signal and have to wait until you actually take your exit before pulling out.
BOR said:
I can't remember whether I indicate "right" on roundabouts or not - what extra information does it actually give ?
You don't indicate "right" if you are going straight on, so you can't rely on a signal or lack of one to predict what a car will do.
A "left" indicate is obviously beneficial to warn people behind you of your actions, but drivers waiting to enter the roundabout also can't rely on your signal and have to wait until you actually take your exit before pulling out.
Indicating right is beneficial.You don't indicate "right" if you are going straight on, so you can't rely on a signal or lack of one to predict what a car will do.
A "left" indicate is obviously beneficial to warn people behind you of your actions, but drivers waiting to enter the roundabout also can't rely on your signal and have to wait until you actually take your exit before pulling out.
Indicating Left .... going left
Indicating right.... going right
Not indicating .... going straight across, will indicate off of the junction
but what specifically do you gain, if I put my right turn indicator on ? It doesn't tell you if I'm leaving at exit 3 or continuing around to exit 4. All it does is imply that I'm not leaving at exit 1 or exit 2, and to make use of that, you have to have followed me onto the island, or be able to see from your waiting position.
IIRC, I do signal "right" but purely for emphasis.
IIRC, I do signal "right" but purely for emphasis.
Then there's the offslip non indicator. They are pootling along in the inside lane and you are going a lot faster but are cleverly using your experience and skill to ease off so you go up the slip road without too much speed loss just behind them.
Then they indicate once actually as they are turning off causing you to have to brake after all, harder than you would if you had known they were going off.
What is the actual point of indicating then? The actual word is made up of INDICATE, which means it should happen before you do it.
Andy
Then they indicate once actually as they are turning off causing you to have to brake after all, harder than you would if you had known they were going off.
What is the actual point of indicating then? The actual word is made up of INDICATE, which means it should happen before you do it.
Andy
Edited by zakelwe on Tuesday 18th May 13:59
Jasandjules said:
At times I wonder if certain vehicles have indicators as an optional extra which was not taken up at purchase..
had some muppet last week; 1) refuse to pull into correct lane even though I had enough space to & was clearly going/needing to go quicker than him, 2) not indicate to pull into the correct lane which is clearly
an extension of the sliproad & then, while I decided to play the will he won't he indicate game, 3) indicate with one single solitary indicator flash which could easily have been missed to pull into the slip roadthen he decided to wind down the window & have a go at me for wondering whether he was going to indicate or not or whether I was going to have to make a sudden move to avoid any other driving muppetry he may throw at me
I recently had some muppet indicating left to go straight on at a roundabout...
I think the left / right / left indication should be reserved for (very) large roundabouts.
At least when I was taught to drive, if you're going straight on at a roundabout, no indication is required.
I think some people take this whole indicating at roundabouts thing a bit too far sometimes.
I think the left / right / left indication should be reserved for (very) large roundabouts.
At least when I was taught to drive, if you're going straight on at a roundabout, no indication is required.
I think some people take this whole indicating at roundabouts thing a bit too far sometimes.
BOR said:
but what specifically do you gain, if I put my right turn indicator on ? It doesn't tell you if I'm leaving at exit 3 or continuing around to exit 4. All it does is imply that I'm not leaving at exit 1 or exit 2, and to make use of that, you have to have followed me onto the island, or be able to see from your waiting position.
IIRC, I do signal "right" but purely for emphasis.
IIRC, I do signal "right" but purely for emphasis.
But you do go round roundabouts the opposite way to the way we do In our 59 plate BMW 3-series the indicators have a mind of their own. Either:
(1) the indicator won’t stay on, with its favourite trick being to cancel just as you pull onto a roundabout
(2) you can’t stop it; it just won’t no matter how much you shout at it and waggle the stalk about – forgetting that it’s not like 99.9% of cars and you don’t push it like a proper switch
There are times I’ve given up trying to stop it, to have my wife mention “you’re still indicating” a short distance later and me say “Yes, I know. I’ve given up. I’m sure I’ll be turning left again soon”.
(1) the indicator won’t stay on, with its favourite trick being to cancel just as you pull onto a roundabout
(2) you can’t stop it; it just won’t no matter how much you shout at it and waggle the stalk about – forgetting that it’s not like 99.9% of cars and you don’t push it like a proper switch
There are times I’ve given up trying to stop it, to have my wife mention “you’re still indicating” a short distance later and me say “Yes, I know. I’ve given up. I’m sure I’ll be turning left again soon”.
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