Hatchback for 4k
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TheStig10

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723 posts

206 months

Friday 21st May 2010
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Getting a new car next month. Ive got 4k to spend excluding insurance, but nothing thats going to cost more than 2k to insure.

I was think something like:
Astra mk5 sportback
Clio Sport
BMW 316ti compact

The astra is the most to buy, but cheapest insurance. The clio is cheapest to buy, but the insurance is a lot more.

What would you suggest from those 3, if none what else is there?

Fleckers

2,880 posts

231 months

Friday 21st May 2010
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Me, I would get the Astra


Somnophore

1,364 posts

206 months

Friday 21st May 2010
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316 is a terrible car, woefully underpowered for what they are to insure etc. Clio out of them or something like a Seat Ibiza Cupra, Skoda Fabia Vrs, Nissan Almera GTi, Pug 106 Rallye get a nice S2 in indigo blue and they hold Their value well

Edited by Somnophore on Friday 21st May 20:01

thebigmacmoomin

2,924 posts

199 months

Friday 21st May 2010
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Focus ?

SwineFluPirate

306 posts

241 months

Saturday 22nd May 2010
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Buggles said:
Clio 172 Cup, no question at all.
This!

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

220 months

Saturday 22nd May 2010
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TheStig10 said:
Getting a new car next month. Ive got 4k to spend excluding insurance, but nothing thats going to cost more than 2k to insure.

I was think something like:
Astra mk5 sportback
Clio Sport
BMW 316ti compact

The astra is the most to buy, but cheapest insurance. The clio is cheapest to buy, but the insurance is a lot more.

What would you suggest from those 3, if none what else is there?
I would think the Astra is an aweful buy. Not very fast, not really a good drive and will continue to lose money unit at a rapid rate unit it's worth about 75 quid.


I think to give a better answer you need to tell us what you want from the car and why?

As in what will you use it for. Do you want it to be fun or fastish. Does it have to be new looking. Is image an issue.

As you are looking at 3 door hatches the. I'd assume praticality isn't really an issue. So how many seats do you really need. And are you going to be hauling much or anything specific. Sure the seats fold down in these. Butthe boot is pretty small on them all otherwise.

I only ask, as £4k is a fair chunk of money and you can buy some very nice, fun, interesting and even fast cars for that money or even only half the amount of money.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

218 months

Saturday 22nd May 2010
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TheStig10 said:
Getting a new car next month. Ive got 4k to spend excluding insurance, but nothing thats going to cost more than 2k to insure.

I was think something like:
Astra mk5 sportback
Clio Sport
BMW 316ti compact

The astra is the most to buy, but cheapest insurance. The clio is cheapest to buy, but the insurance is a lot more.

What would you suggest from those 3, if none what else is there?
I don't like any of them.

The Astra is dull, the 316compact is almost the cheapest car BMW made at that time. If you want a BMW get one with a better engine. Clio is a Renault and although i'm sure a great car to drive old Renaults don't have a good reputation for reliability.

If I was in tbhe market for a hatchback in that price range i'd be looking at the Ford Focus.

TheStig10

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723 posts

206 months

Saturday 22nd May 2010
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300bhp/ton said:
I think to give a better answer you need to tell us what you want from the car and why?

As in what will you use it for. Do you want it to be fun or fastish. Does it have to be new looking. Is image an issue.

As you are looking at 3 door hatches the. I'd assume praticality isn't really an issue. So how many seats do you really need. And are you going to be hauling much or anything specific. Sure the seats fold down in these. Butthe boot is pretty small on them all otherwise.

I only ask, as £4k is a fair chunk of money and you can buy some very nice, fun, interesting and even fast cars for that money or even only half the amount of money.
Im looking for something thats a bit fun, doesnt have to be overly practicable, but does need a fairly big boot to fit my fishing box in.

It needs some sort of fashion statement, because i've had enough rip out of my rover!

I do quite like the focus 3 door.

Ricky_M

6,618 posts

249 months

Saturday 22nd May 2010
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If you are not after balls out performance a Focus is probably your best compromise.

I'd go for a 2.0 ESP, £4K will get you a nice MK1. I used to have a 1.8 Zetec, wasn't the fastest thing on the road with all of 113bhp, but it was a very responsive engine that loved to be revved and actually made quite a satisfying grunt for a 4 pot.

What it lacked in performance it made up for in handling, very planted, minimal body roll and precise. I would recommend one over an Astra any day.

Try and find one with a heated front windscreen an absolute god send in the winter.


Somnophore

1,364 posts

206 months

Saturday 22nd May 2010
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ST170

TheStig10

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206 months

Saturday 22nd May 2010
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Somnophore said:
ST170
Would love one but insurance is about 2.5k frown

Killer2005

20,615 posts

258 months

Saturday 22nd May 2010
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Alfa 147

Somnophore

1,364 posts

206 months

Saturday 22nd May 2010
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How old are you? Area? No claims etc?

Focus 2.0 Zetec or Ghia would be ok

EDLT

15,421 posts

236 months

Saturday 22nd May 2010
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Audi A3?
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1721930.htm

The 1.8t isn't that fast so insurance should be reasonable, and that one looks fairly well equipped.

Somnophore

1,364 posts

206 months

Saturday 22nd May 2010
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audis are stupid on insurance the 1.6 A3 is like group 9 which has same 1.6 engine as 1.6 golf which is a group 5.

Edited by Somnophore on Saturday 22 May 15:13

robsco

7,875 posts

206 months

Saturday 22nd May 2010
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Killer2005 said:
Alfa 147
Good call, unless insurance is a concern.

Edited to add, insurance clearly is a concern, should have read the thread properly.

Edited by robsco on Saturday 22 May 18:53

clarkey318is

2,220 posts

204 months

Saturday 22nd May 2010
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Spend less money on the car and more on insurance otherwise you will end up with something slow and rubbish that depreciates like a stone.

Somnophore

1,364 posts

206 months

Saturday 22nd May 2010
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I'd say that at 4k there's a lot bigger Market for "boring" cars, therefore they will hold their value a lot better than performance cars. The curret petrol price level is devaluing a lot of cheaper performance cars as it is making them less affordable.

swiftpete

1,894 posts

223 months

Saturday 22nd May 2010
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http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1686703.htm

But try and look for one that's not been sold. The insurance shouldn't be too bad and they go well in a straight line and round corners too.

TheStig10

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723 posts

206 months

Sunday 23rd May 2010
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Somnophore said:
How old are you? Area? No claims etc?

Focus 2.0 Zetec or Ghia would be ok
18, 1 year no claims, live just outside Cambridge.

Focus 1.8 zetec 03 plate is 1.5k insurance.