Griff, Cerb, Chim, what next?????
Discussion
I've been a fan of PH for about 2 years now, and started as a lover of cars, got sucked into the PH banter / threading fun. I feel in my 2 years I've learned a fair bit more about motors due to this great site, especially about what makes a great, pure , fabulous driving machine.
I fit into the married with kids / not rich enough for a weekend toy category, so unfortunately have never driven / owned what for many PH'ers is driving nirvana - a hairy chested V8 TVR convertible / coupé.
However, if I had a spare 10-15K to fritter away, I'd love to be test driving decent chimeras, or even a griff (gorgeous car)! Sadly in my present situation, it won't be for a good few years (maybe 10 plus) that I can consider getting a car like this.
BUT - in 10 years, the chance of a good griff will be much reduced, same as a lot of the current line up (2nd hand wise). There might be a few nice tamoras or the odd cerb convertible for current griff money, or not. So what alternatives are there?
I'm thinking good simple 2 seater convertibles with a seriously good engine. What's out there? Any modern equivalents to the mighty TVRs of the nineties and early noughties?
I fit into the married with kids / not rich enough for a weekend toy category, so unfortunately have never driven / owned what for many PH'ers is driving nirvana - a hairy chested V8 TVR convertible / coupé.
However, if I had a spare 10-15K to fritter away, I'd love to be test driving decent chimeras, or even a griff (gorgeous car)! Sadly in my present situation, it won't be for a good few years (maybe 10 plus) that I can consider getting a car like this.
BUT - in 10 years, the chance of a good griff will be much reduced, same as a lot of the current line up (2nd hand wise). There might be a few nice tamoras or the odd cerb convertible for current griff money, or not. So what alternatives are there?
I'm thinking good simple 2 seater convertibles with a seriously good engine. What's out there? Any modern equivalents to the mighty TVRs of the nineties and early noughties?
Hell27 said:
I've been a fan of PH for about 2 years now, and started as a lover of cars, got sucked into the PH banter / threading fun. I feel in my 2 years I've learned a fair bit more about motors due to this great site, especially about what makes a great, pure , fabulous driving machine.
I fit into the married with kids / not rich enough for a weekend toy category, so unfortunately have never driven / owned what for many PH'ers is driving nirvana - a hairy chested V8 TVR convertible / coupé.
However, if I had a spare 10-15K to fritter away, I'd love to be test driving decent chimeras, or even a griff (gorgeous car)! Sadly in my present situation, it won't be for a good few years (maybe 10 plus) that I can consider getting a car like this.
BUT - in 10 years, the chance of a good griff will be much reduced, same as a lot of the current line up (2nd hand wise). There might be a few nice tamoras or the odd cerb convertible for current griff money, or not. So what alternatives are there?
I'm thinking good simple 2 seater convertibles with a seriously good engine. What's out there? Any modern equivalents to the mighty TVRs of the nineties and early noughties?
[300bhp/ton]Anything American [/300bhp/ton]I fit into the married with kids / not rich enough for a weekend toy category, so unfortunately have never driven / owned what for many PH'ers is driving nirvana - a hairy chested V8 TVR convertible / coupé.
However, if I had a spare 10-15K to fritter away, I'd love to be test driving decent chimeras, or even a griff (gorgeous car)! Sadly in my present situation, it won't be for a good few years (maybe 10 plus) that I can consider getting a car like this.
BUT - in 10 years, the chance of a good griff will be much reduced, same as a lot of the current line up (2nd hand wise). There might be a few nice tamoras or the odd cerb convertible for current griff money, or not. So what alternatives are there?
I'm thinking good simple 2 seater convertibles with a seriously good engine. What's out there? Any modern equivalents to the mighty TVRs of the nineties and early noughties?
Gutted I had to edit such a short response.
Edited by hondafanatic on Saturday 22 May 21:31
Hell27 said:
Poor old 300bhp, leave him alone! Actually, thinking about it, I'd love a 4.6 V8 mustang convertible! No TVR, but hairy chested V8 sideways fun, plus a bit of a childhood obsession after bullitt!
I think old 300bhp is more than capable of defending himself and completely derailing your topic.Z4M?
Jasandjules said:
Why not get a Chimaera in 10 years? It's a classic machine and I don't ever aim to get rid of mine if I can help it.
True, but presumably have got a good um, and in 10 years, will have maintained and cared for it to your standards, thus the expectation being that you won't have too many nasty surprises. A cold purchase 10 years hence could unearth me a big fat lemon. Or prices could get silly for a classic.
The tamora would be a serious consideration though. I'd also love the thought of a XJR, although that is far more of a GT than a roadster.
I agree that in 10 years time there will be plenty of cherished Chims, Griffs & Cerbs with immaculate painted chassis, fresh suspension and rebuilt engines to choose from. There're 20-25 year-old Wedges and 'S' cars which are still in terrific condition, mechanically and cosmetically. A significant proportion of Tivs will always be cherished and looked after by enthusiastic owners.
Instead of waiting 10 years, why not chop your budget to £5k and get a decent TVR V6 'S' sooner? Sounds meaty and TVR-worthy despite 'only' a 2.8 or 2.9 V6, looks great, and some reckon it's more responsive and adjustable on the road than some of its more recent TVR brothers. You can get a very good one for £5k nowadays.
Instead of waiting 10 years, why not chop your budget to £5k and get a decent TVR V6 'S' sooner? Sounds meaty and TVR-worthy despite 'only' a 2.8 or 2.9 V6, looks great, and some reckon it's more responsive and adjustable on the road than some of its more recent TVR brothers. You can get a very good one for £5k nowadays.
speedtwelve said:
I agree that in 10 years time there will be plenty of cherished Chims, Griffs & Cerbs with immaculate painted chassis, fresh suspension and rebuilt engines to choose from. There're 20-25 year-old Wedges and 'S' cars which are still in terrific condition, mechanically and cosmetically. A significant proportion of Tivs will always be cherished and looked after by enthusiastic owners.
Instead of waiting 10 years, why not chop your budget to £5k and get a decent TVR V6 'S' sooner? Sounds meaty and TVR-worthy despite 'only' a 2.8 or 2.9 V6, looks great, and some reckon it's more responsive and adjustable on the road than some of its more recent TVR brothers. You can get a very good one for £5k nowadays.
I'm going to be shot down here, but for whatever completely subjective reason, a TVR V6 just doesn't even register. It really is an unreasonable subjective opinion, but they just don't rank compared to Chims, Griffs and Cerbs.Instead of waiting 10 years, why not chop your budget to £5k and get a decent TVR V6 'S' sooner? Sounds meaty and TVR-worthy despite 'only' a 2.8 or 2.9 V6, looks great, and some reckon it's more responsive and adjustable on the road than some of its more recent TVR brothers. You can get a very good one for £5k nowadays.
Sorry to any owners
I'm happy to convinced otherwiseI'm assuming you're referring to;
Back to the OP - How about an M3?
Can't believe I'm pushing bmws
Hell27 said:
A cold purchase 10 years hence could unearth me a big fat lemon. Or prices could get silly for a classic.
True. But if you can find someone who has looked after it then it's not so bad? Might need a few bits doing but then what car 15-20 years old wouldn't?If it is inspected and given the green light, then happy days?
I must say I wanted a Tamora but when I drove it, I was sorely disappointed. Nothing beats a Chimaera for sounds, looks and just sheer pleasure to drive, not to mention the grin just starting the engine..
Jasandjules said:
Hell27 said:
A cold purchase 10 years hence could unearth me a big fat lemon. Or prices could get silly for a classic.
True. But if you can find someone who has looked after it then it's not so bad? Might need a few bits doing but then what car 15-20 years old wouldn't?If it is inspected and given the green light, then happy days?
I must say I wanted a Tamora but when I drove it, I was sorely disappointed. Nothing beats a Chimaera for sounds, looks and just sheer pleasure to drive, not to mention the grin just starting the engine..
B17NNS said:
Hell27 said:
odd cerb convertible
They are indeed rare beasts 
I think there will still be lots of decent cars left. Situation might even be better than it is now as what's left will probably be enthusiast owned.
I have no wife or kids and still can't afford one
10 years time think what a sagaris will be worth, probably arround the 15-20k mark.. assuming hyper inflation doesnt kick in, but thats another kettle of fish!
and please dont take this as offense but if it takes 10 years to save up 10k spare for one of these you are not going to be able to run it on £1000 per year.
and please dont take this as offense but if it takes 10 years to save up 10k spare for one of these you are not going to be able to run it on £1000 per year.
Ginetta G33
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx4zVfnmSC0
was on Top Gear driven by Tiff in 1991
http://www.streetfire.net/video/top-gear-19911031_...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx4zVfnmSC0
was on Top Gear driven by Tiff in 1991
http://www.streetfire.net/video/top-gear-19911031_...
Hondafanatic
Yup, that's the one. Always quite liked the 'S', although I have a Chimaera myself. A mate shares your opinion, and considers the 'S' to be 'TVR-Lite' in almost every sense.
The roof on the Chim is OK once you get the hang of it. It's a one-man job, the biggest hassle is getting the targa roof section into the boot without scratching the paint on the car (which I've managed, despite the roof being in its bag). If the boot is full of crap it may require some repacking. The Chim is way better than the Griff in this respect, the roof is a much tighter fit in the latter's boot. Putting it back is similarly easy, although the alloy hood struts need a good two-hand push to lock them overcentre to keep the targa section in place. It's not as much hassle as an Elise, but a bit more of a pain than the two clips and chuck it back that I had in my glass rear-window MX5.
ETA: Unless you're over 6 foot, the view behind with the roof down in the Chimaera is a vista of bugger-all. The hood sits just high enough when folded to obscure everything. The plastic rear-window does not zip-out, and must be carefully arranged to prevent damage when folded. For these two reasons I tend to remove the targa roof panel, then keep the rear hood up. Open top motoring, but I can still see out the back!
Yup, that's the one. Always quite liked the 'S', although I have a Chimaera myself. A mate shares your opinion, and considers the 'S' to be 'TVR-Lite' in almost every sense.
The roof on the Chim is OK once you get the hang of it. It's a one-man job, the biggest hassle is getting the targa roof section into the boot without scratching the paint on the car (which I've managed, despite the roof being in its bag). If the boot is full of crap it may require some repacking. The Chim is way better than the Griff in this respect, the roof is a much tighter fit in the latter's boot. Putting it back is similarly easy, although the alloy hood struts need a good two-hand push to lock them overcentre to keep the targa section in place. It's not as much hassle as an Elise, but a bit more of a pain than the two clips and chuck it back that I had in my glass rear-window MX5.
ETA: Unless you're over 6 foot, the view behind with the roof down in the Chimaera is a vista of bugger-all. The hood sits just high enough when folded to obscure everything. The plastic rear-window does not zip-out, and must be carefully arranged to prevent damage when folded. For these two reasons I tend to remove the targa roof panel, then keep the rear hood up. Open top motoring, but I can still see out the back!
Edited by speedtwelve on Saturday 22 May 22:13
Hell27 said:
hondafanatic said:
Jesus titty f
king Christ.
The answer is obvious.
M to the X to the 5.
A good suggestion, but part of the original question was actually avoiding 4 cylinder units, more 6 or pref V8. That's why the thought of a S2000 interesting, but not thrilling. king Christ.The answer is obvious.
M to the X to the 5.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnOZoGkgSBcp
slipstream 1985 said:
10 years time think what a sagaris will be worth, probably arround the 15-20k mark.. assuming hyper inflation doesnt kick in, but thats another kettle of fish!
and please dont take this as offense but if it takes 10 years to save up 10k spare for one of these you are not going to be able to run it on £1000 per year.
None taken! was thinking more as 10- 15 K budget as the run rate for a car purchase - i.e what I'd spend on a car now. There would be a second family car for everyday needs. 10 years actually refers to the time when the whole nappies buggies camping trips family needs period to ease off to allow a "mid life crisis car?"and please dont take this as offense but if it takes 10 years to save up 10k spare for one of these you are not going to be able to run it on £1000 per year.
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